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		<title>Decline</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 17:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Grey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has Japan declined? <p>Time and again, Americans are told to look to Japan as a warning of what the country might become if the right path is not followed, although there is intense disagreement about what that path might be. Here, for instance, is how the CNN analyst David Gergen has described Japan: “It’s <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2012/01/17/decline/">Decline</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/opinion/sunday/the-true-story-of-japans-economic-success.html?_r=1&amp;pagewanted=1&amp;ref=opinion">Has Japan declined</a>?</div>
<blockquote><p>Time and again, Americans are told to look to Japan as a warning of what the country might become if the right path is not followed, although there is intense disagreement about what that path might be. Here, for instance, is how the CNN analyst David Gergen has described Japan: “It’s now a very demoralized country and it has really been set back.”</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>But that presentation of Japan is a myth. By many measures, the Japanese economy has done very well during the so-called lost decades, which started with a stock market crash in January 1990. By some of the most important measures, it has done a lot better than the United States.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Japan has succeeded in delivering an increasingly affluent lifestyle to its people despite the financial crash. In the fullness of time, it is likely that this era will be viewed as an outstanding success story.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>How can the reality and the image be so different? And can the United States learn from Japan’s experience?</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>It is true that Japanese housing prices have never returned to the ludicrous highs they briefly touched in the wild final stage of the boom. Neither has the Tokyo stock market.</p></blockquote>
<p>When the talking heads speak of a decline, what they really mean is a loss of stock portfolio value.<span> </span>Or, more accurately, a decline in the <em>prices</em> of stocks, bonds, real estate, and other forms of capital.<span> </span>The wealthy abhor this potentiality because it would effectively destroy their wealth.<span> </span>While this concern isn’t altogether problematic (why shouldn’t they be self-interested, just like everyone else in the world?), the proposed solutions are.</p>
<p>Preventing “decline” is largely contingent on keeping capital prices afloat, which is itself contingent on leverage (which, it should be noticed, will be subsidized by taxpayers in some way), debt, and/or inflation.<span> </span>This is the only way.<span> </span>Capital asset prices are already significantly overvalued; the only way to keep it this way is to continue the policies that enabled this in the first place.</p>
<p>The only alternative is to let capital asset prices crash and then recover.<span> </span>This is the optimal strategy, in the sense of doing what’s best for the most people, for this strategy only requires non-intervention in the economy, which is unsurprisingly cheaper than intervention and bailouts.<span> </span>The reason why the talking heads never propose this is because the timeline for recovery is fuzzy at best.</p>
<p>Quite simply, once the market crashes and capital prices return to their pre-malinvestment valuations, it will be some time before those prices go back up again.<span> </span>This poses a problem to the wealthy employers of the talking heads, for said employers have spent their lifetime accumulating this imaginary wealth and, now that they are beginning to look at retiring, they do not want to see it simply vanish.</p>
<p>Therefore, the mainstream argument against decline—which is prevented only by bailouts and leverage—is entirely founded on the assumption that maintaining capital asset prices is desirable.<span> </span>Given the costs of doing so, and given that the result only benefit wealthy crooks, it seems clear that the best course of action is to welcome decline with open arms.<span> </span>This way, as is seen in Japan, living well will not simply be the privilege of the wealthy.</p>
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		<title>Is It immoral to Play the Stock Market?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Grey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The other day, my brother emailed me to ask if it was wrong to play the stock market.  Since I was going to take the time to write him, I thought I’d share my response on my blog.</p> <p>In the first place, it’s important to note that the stock market is inherently neutral, morally.  <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2011/10/11/is-it-immoral-to-play-the-stock-market/">Is It immoral to Play the Stock Market?</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other day, my brother emailed me to ask if it was wrong to play the stock market.  Since I was going to take the time to write him, I thought I’d share my response on my blog.</p>
<p>In the first place, it’s important to note that the stock market is inherently neutral, morally.  By this I mean that the stock market, as a non-human entity, cannot go to heaven or hell and, as such, cannot be inherently moral or immoral by its own state of nature.</p>
<p>In the second place, it’s important to note the sources of immorality within the stock market.  Karl Denninger has documented massive amounts of fraud among traders, particularly among firms that engage in automated trades.  Furthermore, many companies traded on the stock exchange engage in illegal and immoral business practices.  Many trades are based on fraud (think of businesses that lie about their balance sheets and income statements).  Also, many people engaging stock trades are highly immoral.</p>
<p>Does this then mean that one can never trade stocks?  Of course not.  If it were immoral to trade with those who are immoral, then no one could buy groceries or clothes, or engage in any kind of trade.  And it is not inherently immoral to be the victim of fraud (though it is foolish).  Interacting with those who are immoral does not cause their immorality to transfer to you by the merits of trade.</p>
<p>However, those who are immoral can end up having an influence simply by the virtue of your continued interaction with them.  This does not mean that the venue of your interaction is immoral.  Rather, your decision to allow those who are immoral to drag you down to their level is immoral, and it is you who will bear the guilt and blame for that decision, not the stock market.</p>
<p>It is worth noting, though, that if playing the stock market troubles your conscience then you should refrain from playing the stock market (cf. Romans 14).  And it is also worth noting that there are many major players in the stock market who are simply looking for a sucker of which to take advantage, and that the government has often turned a blind eye to the fraud that usually accompanies this.  As such, though it is perfectly moral to play the market, it is at this point in time quite foolish to do so.</p>
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		<title>Random Shots &#8211; No Light at the End of the Tunnel?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 13:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Claus Vistesen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>One of the stories that caught my attention this week was the Bloomberg piece about how banks in London and New York are starting to jump ship on the old finance hubs due to fear of effects from planned regulatory tightening.</p> <p>Quote Bloomberg</p> <p>Banks in Europe are exploring ways to cut costs by routing <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2011/09/07/random-shots-no-light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel/">Random Shots &#8211; No Light at the End of the Tunnel?</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span><span><img src="http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/38d11_tunnel.JPG?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1315164377679" alt="" /></span></span>One of the stories that caught my attention this week was <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-31/london-the-biggest-loser-as-banks-look-to-book-trades-overseas.html">the Bloomberg piece about how banks in London and New York are starting to jump ship</a> on the old finance hubs due to fear of effects from planned regulatory tightening.</p>
<p><em>Quote Bloomberg</em></p>
<blockquote><p>Banks in Europe are exploring ways to cut costs by routing more of their trades and other business through overseas subsidiaries, a plan that may shift tax revenue away from London and loosen European regulators’ influence over the lenders.Nomura Holdings Inc., HSBC Holdings Plc (HSBA) and UBS AG (UBSN) are among lenders preparing plans to book as much business as possible through legal entities in jurisdictions where tax rates are lower and rules on capital and liquidity are less onerous, the banks and lawyers and accountants working with them say.</p>
<p>(&#8230;)</p>
<p>Banks could record as much as 30 percent of the value of their trades through Hong Kong, Singapore and other jurisdictions instead of hubs such as London and New York without running into trouble with regulators, Matten said. Such a move would hurt traditional hubs such as London because assets are treated for tax and regulatory purposes in the country where they are booked. It would also allow banks to sidestep the U.K. bank levy, introduced last year to raise 2.5 billion pounds ($4.1 billion) from lenders operating in Britain, as well as any financial transaction tax imposed by the European Union.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps this is a sign of the times in the sense that both banks and market participants seem to be looking increasingly outside the boundaries of the developed world for growth, profit and eventually prosperity. Having just moved to the Big Smoke I would not necessarily lament a downsizing of the finance sector even if it is the pond that I also do my fishing for the daily meal ticket. Perhaps, if fast moving financiers chose to go to Singapore instead of London, the residents of the latter would not have to endure paying 300.000 GBP for a studio flat in Canary Wharf [1].</p>
<p>Of course, it may all be a red herring but it could also be part of a number of tentative signs that the locus of global activity on a variety of fronts is moving to new epicentres. Let us hope they do not travel entirely in our foot steps.</p>
<p>More generally, we just put out our monthly report and the outlook is very much wishy-washy. Surely, our leading indicators are pointing down, but after the market puke in August it seems to me that the end of the world had almost been priced in as the S&amp;P500 hit the 1100 marker. In this sense, do not be surprised to see it ticking towards 1250 even if the recent job data were abysmal, but beware. The old range has been broken and we are finding a new lower one. Market prices have a tendency to become &#8220;normal&#8221; after a period and with global economic activity visibly slowing the fundamentals are not really on the bulls&#8217; side even if they point to the merits of chasing a counter trend rally after a 10% drawdown.</p>
<p>More generally as I noted before, the divergence between respectable analysts is widening which always makes me take a few steps back. On the one hand I see both buy side and sell side analysts rather stubbornly sticking to their year-end S&amp;P500 targets of 1300-1400 while other independent analysts put the fair value of the index at 900-1000. Both will obviously have an axe (or maybe even a book) to grind, but part of my job is to synthesize the consensus into a fairly straight road map for our clients, and it is getting difficult.</p>
<p>I tend to side with the pessimists if only because I find it difficult to see how US corporates can continue to operate as efficiently as they have been doing so far. Gerald Minack had some excellent points on this in his latest report;</p>
<blockquote><p>A big medium-term uncertainty for DM equity investors is the sustainability of earnings. A decade ago, the big uncertainty was whether valuations could be sustained. They weren’t . The de-rating may have further to go, but clearly valuation is less of a headwind now than at the TMT-inspired peak. Earnings, on the other hand, are very high. Profits are now near an all-time high as a share of global GDP, and the real return on equity has followed . What’s not able, however, is not the cycle rebound, but the elevated level of earnings (and real returns) over the past decade. The forward-looking issue is whether those elevated returns can be sustained. At a global level, the answer may be ‘yes’ – for the simple reason it’s now possible to make profits in places where previously it was not. What’s not clear is the sustainability of high earnings in the developed world.</p></blockquote>
<p>In particular, I would would point to the contradiction between continuing ultra low unit labour costs and the need to now see growth moving from cost cutting to topline growth. Something does not add up.</p>
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<div>Real unit labour costs are now at 60-year lows. This matches the decline in wage share of GDP to a 50-year low. Arithmetically, this is the most important support for high profits. As I’ve discussed in prior reports, it’s not clear how long households can support consumer spending at near 70% of GDP with labour income at multi-decade lows. That’s been possible recently due to massive transfers from the public sector, but that support appears unsustainable.</div>
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<p>In my opinion, this is big elephant in the room in relation to the US stock market. It will be difficult for earnings (and margins) to stay at current levels going forward. It follows naturally from the fact that if all companies cut costs and this improves margins this will only work for a limited period time as there are decreasing returns if everyone follows this strategy at the same time. Now we need to see topline sales growth for margins to be sustained, but this is obviously difficult with the current macroeconomic backdrop, so something has to give.</p>
<p>Globally, <a href="http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2011/09/01/667231/global-slowdown-alerts/">coincident data is already slowing visibly across the globe</a> with headline PMI readings and trade data coming in steadily lower. In that sense we are up against the wall again only so shortly after the shock of 2008/09 and this time, the ability of policy makers to respond is limited.</p>
<p>However, I would be weary about calling this another 2008. One of the effects of experiencing a balance sheet recession with subsequent deleveraging is that trend growth falls and thus that the economy becomes liable to more frequent recessions. This applies to the US in particular but essentially also to the whole of OECD. This means that we will see more frequent but also essentially shallower recessions. The only qualifier here is really that some parts of Europe are now stuck in a depression locked in a vice of dysfunctional institutions and a lack of willingness and political capability to deal with the problems.</p>
<p>As such, within Europe also lies the potential source a Lehman like shock should the crisis prompt a rapid and violent default of one or more sovereigns and/or financial institutions. Certainly, euro area banks are feeling the pinch as <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-12/u-s-money-funds-shun-italian-spanish-banks-for-swiss-assets.html">USD funding is getting cut off</a> and if anything it seems to me that the EURUSD is looking a bit too strong for its own good given the backdrop of the mess in the euro zone. As cash levels at euro zone banks are drawn down the currency will adjust to fundamentals not to mention of course the fact that the ECB is slowly but steadily being pushed into full blown QE and monetisation of peripheral debt.</p>
<p>The latest G&amp;F provides a good summary;</p>
<blockquote><p>(&#8230;) The risk of a dollar rally against the euro in coming months is growing. This is because, sooner or later, the ECB will have to reverse its recent insane monetary tightening. Trichet made a start in this direction this week in his usual ponderous manner. Thus, he told the Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs of the European Parliament in Brussels on Monday that “risks to the medium-term outlook for price developments are under study in the context of the ECB staff projections that will be released early September.” The issue here is whether markets will allow Trichet to save face and not performs an abrupt U-turn before his scheduled departure from the scene on 31 October.</p></blockquote>
<p>More generally, the recent comments from the IMF that euro zone banks need additional capital is once more a case of stating the almost obviously obvious. The transmission mechanism here is very simple. The market is now effectively pricing in a default of Greece and possibly other peripheral economies and this means that the attention must now turn to the losses that creditors will bear or, alternatively, the size of the bailout if we stick to the old mantra of no losses. As a good friend of mine pointed out recently,</p>
<blockquote><p>All trough last month’s banking shares’ collapse, I have been thinking that perhaps, equity investors are worried that the recapitalization will be different this time, with either the taxpayer (wrong solution) or the bondholder (rightly, through a bond-for-equity swap), massively diluting the shareholder. Politicians obviously do not have the stomach, nor the muscle for new bailouts.</p></blockquote>
<p>Or to put it differently, there are no easy solutions left. One solution is the Brady Bond plan which is currently being floated in the case of Greece. The problem as I see is that it is fudged precisely when it comes to the <em>current</em> valuation of the bonds. Basically, there has to be pain today for the creditors, otherwise we are just kicking the proverbial can down the road as recapitalisation is avoided today but made worse for tomorrow. A solution for recapitalising banks today would naturally be for their creditors to accept a swap for equity and thus being moved into the frontline to absorb any losses that the banks would bear on sovereign debt, but that is not popular. Essentially, being degraded to equity holder in a bank with known sovereign assets in the European periphery is equal to taking a haircut on your initial investment, but all this then leaves the inevitable question of who and when someone will step up to take the lead in the debt restructuring.</p>
<p>Of course, the idea of substituting debt for equity is the same principle applied in the case of Greece posting domestic assets (islands, utility companies etc) as collateral for credit. We can then think about this collateral as Greek sovereign equity and as with creditors of banks, it is all good in theory but in practice, not so well.</p>
<p>Elsewhere, <a href="http://clausvistesen.squarespace.com/alphasources-blog/2010/1/11/fx-markets-2010-the-old-maid-global-imbalances-and-carry-tra.html">the game of Old Maid in global currency markets</a> continue with <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-02/snb-may-have-to-buy-euros-to-stem-franc-heading-for-record-weekly-advance.html">the SNB still in the spotlight</a> despite already having taken desperate measures to stop the appreciation of the CHF;</p>
<p><em>Quote Bloomberg</em></p>
<blockquote><p>While the Swiss National Bank has so far avoided currency purchases in its latest bid to keep a lid on the franc, it may soon have no alternative but to follow through on its threat to intervene, economists and strategists said.</p></blockquote>
<p>But what really caught my attention was <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-02/rousseff-s-risky-rate-cut-means-boosting-brazil-gdp-outweighs-inflation.html">comments by Brazilian Finance Minister Guido Mantega</a> that lowering interest rates represents an effective <em>antidote</em> against an appreciating currency.</p>
<p><em>Quote Bloomberg</em></p>
<blockquote><p>For “the next two or three years, the conditions will be there for rates to keep falling,” Mantega told reporters in Sao Paulo today. “Falling rates are a good antidote for the gains in the real.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Allow me to quote myself from the post linked above;</p>
<blockquote><p>Old Maid is a card game where the simple task is to avoid holding a given card (often the queen of spades) at the end of the game. Even in the company of good friends however, holding Old Maid at the end is not fun. Often, you have to buy the drinks, drop a piece of clothes, or endure other travails. And as it turns out, the global FX market is not unlike this good old game of cards where the Old Maid is proxied by having a strong currency on whose shoulders the correction of global macroeconomic imbalances must invariably fall. In this way, and although one sometimes get the feeling that everyone believes that everybody may actually export their way out of their current misery, buying one country’s currency means selling another and thus, someone (be it an individual economy or a group/basket of economies) must end up holding Old Maid.</p></blockquote>
<p>The easy investment advice here is naturally to buy the Old Maid which means that just as the global financial punditry searching for clues as to what lies ahead for the global economy and the looming slowdown the SNB et al may have to skint yet awhile for light at the end of the tunnel.</p>
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<p>[1] &#8211; No my dear reader, I am renting and I would never touch these things but they are there and they are being sold.</p>
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		<title>Market Analysis: How to Prepare for Economic Depression</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 19:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Gold Report</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The week of August 15 was one of the most volatile stock market performances in years. Negative news about the global economy, gloomy forecasts and mixed signals on the jobs front battered stocks and sent gold repeatedly above $1,800/ounce. The Gold Report asked an analyst, two newsletter writers and an economist the following: What <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2011/08/22/market-analysis-how-to-prepare-for-economic-depression/">Market Analysis: How to Prepare for Economic Depression</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The week of August 15 was one of the most volatile stock market  performances in years. Negative news about the global economy, gloomy  forecasts and mixed signals on the jobs front battered stocks and sent  gold repeatedly above $1,800/ounce. <em>The Gold Report</em> asked an analyst, two newsletter writers and an economist the following: What should be a precious metals investor&#8217;s next move?</p>
<p><strong><em>The Gold Report:</em></strong> John Williams, government economist and editor of <a href="http://www.shadowstats.com/" target="_blank"><em>ShadowStats</em></a>,  put it this way: &#8220;The financial markets remain unstable and the U.S.  dollar is viewed increasingly as the investment currency of last choice.  . .Any cosmetic actions taken pre-2012 election likely only will add to  the long-term inflation and dollar-debasement problems.&#8221; Considering  these market conditions, is this a buying opportunity for equities or a  good time to take refuge in gold and silver bullion as they continue  their climb north? How are you adjusting your investing positions in  light of global geopolitical and financial unrest?</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/htdocs/expert.html?id=3582" target="_blank">Nana Sangmuah</a>, <a href="http://www.clarussecurities.com/" target="_blank">Clarus Securities</a> analyst:</strong> All indicators point to weakening global macro-economic framework that  has stoked the safe haven demand for the bullion. Despite the good run  so far, I expect to see some volatility going forward and there will be  some pullbacks in the near term. To stay a winner depends on when you  jumped on the bullion band wagon. A better way to reap this upside is to  move into gold equities with production and immediate leverage to  rising gold prices. Most of these have not re-rated to the $1,500/oz.  gold price environment so pose little risk to the downside, but a lot of  upside, as they continue to report record quarterly results.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/htdocs/expert.html?id=1168" target="_blank">John Kaiser</a>, producer of <a href="http://www.kaiserbottomfish.com/s/Home.asp" target="_blank">Kaiser Research Online</a>:</strong> The valuation lag for gold and silver equities relative to the prices  of gold and silver bullion reflects an embedded pessimism about the  medium- to long-term global economic outlook, which has been exacerbated  by the recent debt ceiling debacle. Private sector deleveraging has  been underway since 2008, and it now appears that political pressures  are forcing a cycle of public sector deleveraging called &#8220;austerity.&#8221;  China&#8217;s fiscal stimulus response to the 2008 curtailment of consumption  demand depended on the American economy regaining traction by 2011, but  it is now clear that American fiscal stimulus efforts have been  ineffectual and China&#8217;s slowing economy will not receive a boost from a  recovery in American demand. This crimps expectations that China&#8217;s  growing economy will continue to incur a rising cost structure as  domestic consumption assumes a greater share of Chinese GDP and boosts  the competitiveness of American-produced goods and expands the Chinese  market for them. A slowing Chinese economy, in turn, reduces the  willingness of the private sector to invest in American production  capacity and boost employment through manufacturing jobs. That will  further encourage private sector deleveraging and result in scaled-back  consumption, in effect putting in place an economic death spiral  accelerated by ongoing job losses at the state and local government  levels as the tax revenue base shrinks.</p>
<p>While the prospect of a  dysfunctional global financial system boosts demand for gold and silver  prices, the arrival of a double-dip recession possibly deteriorating  into a full-blown depression has deflationary implications that will  &#8220;pop&#8221; the so called bubble in gold and silver prices. Equities are not  tracking the short-term rise in gold and silver, which could exceed  $2,000/oz. and $50/oz. respectively, because markets are anticipating a  serious medium-term retreat in gold and silver prices. We could see gold  and silver head higher while gold and silver equity prices head lower.  The buying window would emerge after gold and silver have spiked in the  midst of &#8220;panic&#8221; conditions, with the speculation being that current  prices plus or minus 20% are the new long-term reality for gold and  silver prices. However, for that to happen there must be signs that the  American economy is on a growth track, and that the Eurozone will avoid  disintegration. The sharp sell-off in gold and silver prices in the  medium term, which current equity prices are discounting, would not  happen if the American economy continues its current trend of relative  decline within a growing global economy. The latter requires the United  States to adopt a fiscal stimulus program that produces assets that flow  value to future generations expected to pay off the associated debt.</p>
<p>The  negative scenario for gold would be one where the United States, in an  effort to postpone or suspend its relative economic decline, engineers a  downturn that inflicts considerable suffering on its citizens, but  utterly demolishes emerging economies such as China, which represents  the biggest displacement threat to the United States. The political  discourse seems to suggest that the best way for America to save itself  is to submerge itself and drown dependent economies before they are  advanced enough to swim on their own.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/htdocs/expert.html?id=2700" target="_blank">Ian Gordon</a>, economic forecaster and chair of the <a href="http://www.longwavegroup.com/" target="_blank">Longwave Group</a>:</strong> The majority of gold investors are there because they can see the  impending collapse of paper money, but some investors, including many  hedge funds, are in the gold market simply because they are  trend-followers. In ugly markets, such as the one now unfolding, these  trend-followers sell their gold. During the stock bear market, which  commenced in October 2007, the price of gold continued to rise into  March 2008, even though the Dow had lost about 17.5% from October 2007  to March 2008. But after March, gold sold off into October 2008, losing  about 35% of its value. We feel that something similar could happen to  gold, this time, in the wake of falling stock prices. As for silver,  prices fell by 60% between March 2008 and October 2008. A 35% drop from  current prices would see the price of gold fall to something like  $1,200/oz. As for the stock market, we are extremely bearish and believe  that in the Elliott Wave market cycles, we are entering the third  downswing, which should take the Dow Jones Industrial Average well below  the March 2009 low of 6,470; perhaps 4,500 will be the target by  September 2012.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/htdocs/expert.html?id=2660" target="_blank">Jason Hamlin</a>, president of <a href="http://www.goldstockbull.com/" target="_blank"><em>Gold Stock Bull</em></a><em>:</em></strong> I am going to continue holding precious metals and buying the dips. <em>The Gold Stock Bull</em> portfolio has been short general equities and long precious metals for  the past few months, which has paid off handsomely from both angles.  Having already hit my 2011 target of $1,800, I now think gold could end  the year above $2,000 rather easily. I have not closed my short  positions against emerging markets and the Nasdaq, despite the current  correction. I do not anticipate a healthy rebound anytime soon, only  dead cat bounces unless and until a much larger QE3 program is  announced. But even with the massive liquidity injections, we are seeing  the law of diminishing return take hold. Eventually, the house of cards  must tumble. I have been allocating more towards physical metals and  towards funds that hold the physical metal such as Central Fund of  Canada (AMEX:CEF). I have also increased my allocation of gold versus  silver, as I think gold will outperform under weak economic conditions.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p> <p>The frontiers of Nifty.</p> <p>Next steps on the SEBI story: An interview with U. K. Sinha, by Puja Mehra and Rajiv Bhuva, in Business Today. Mobis Philipose in the Mint. Uproar over I-T raids on SEBI members, in Business Today. In probing SEBI board members, go by CVC rule: Abraham, by Sunny Verma, <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2011/07/07/interesting-readings-for-july-7-2011/">Interesting readings for July 7, 2011</a></span>]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.hubbis.com/articles.php?aid=1309493377">The frontiers of Nifty</a>.</p>
<p>Next steps on <a href="http://ajayshahblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/interesting-readings.html">the SEBI story</a>: <a href="http://businesstoday.intoday.in/story/sebi-uk-sinha-idr-mutual-fund-entry-load-takeover-code-bimal-jalan/1/16420.html">An interview</a> with U. K. Sinha, by Puja Mehra and Rajiv Bhuva, in <em>Business Today</em>. <a href="http://www.livemint.com/2011/06/20213736/Is-8216go-slow8217-the-m.html?h=B">Mobis Philipose</a> in the <em>Mint</em>. <a href="http://businesstoday.intoday.in/story/income-tax-raids-on-sebi-members/1/16298.html"><em>Uproar over I-T raids on SEBI members</em></a>, in <em>Business Today</em>. <a href="http://www.financialexpress.com/news/in-probing-sebi-board-members-go-by-cvc-rule-abraham/803679/0"><em>In probing SEBI board members, go by CVC rule: Abraham</em></a>,<br />
by Sunny Verma, in the <em>Financial Express</em>.  <a href="http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/sebi-may-stick-to-its-guns-in-mcx-sx-case/439593/"><em>Sebi may stick to its guns in MCX-SX case</em></a> by N. Sundaresha Subramanian in the <em>Business Standard</em>.<a href="http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/sebis-abraham-emerges-front-runner-for-fmc-top-job/439573/"><em> Sebi&#8217;s Abraham emerges front-runner for FMC top job </em></a> by Ashish Rukhaiyar &amp; Sanjeeb Mukherjee in the <em>Business<br />
Standard</em>. An <a href="http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/chewingbubblegum/440206/">editorial</a> in the <em>Business Standard</em>. <a href="http://www.financialexpress.com/news/column-t-rowe-prices-dilemma/809663/0">Sunil Jain</a> on the problem of recruiting a UTI Chairman, in the <em>Financial Express</em>. <a href="http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/9020615.cms?prtpage=1"><em>SEBI looks to amend law to protect officials from investigative agencies</em></a> by Reena Zachariah, in the <em>Economic Times</em>. SEBI seems to have not <a href="http://profit.ndtv.com/news/show/sebi-hardens-stance-in-its-reply-in-mcx-sx-case-to-bombay-hc-162295">backed away</a> in the high court on MCX-SX.</p>
<p><a href="http://businesstoday.intoday.in/story/static-on-the-fm-channel/1/9505.html"><em>Static on the FM channel</em></a> by Puja Mehra, in <em>Business Today</em>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.indianexpress.com/news/that-seventies-feeling/804154/0"><em>That seventies feeling</em></a> by Pratap Bhanu Mehta, in the <em>Indian Express</em>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/shubhashis-gangopadhyay-whose-land-is-it-anyway/440332/">Shubhashis Gangopadhyay</a> in the <em>Business Standard</em> on land acquisition.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shareable.net/blog/afghans-build-open-source-internet-from-trash-0">We should be learning from these Afghans</a>!</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.firstpost.com/economy/the-ipo-market-is-down-and-that%E2%80%99s-good-news-for-investors-34332.html">A difficult patch in the Indian IPO market</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.livemint.com/2011/06/20214934/Is-past-record-a-measure-of-ef.html?h=B"><em>Saurabh Kumar</em></a> in the <em>Mint</em> on the extent to which IPOs from certain investment bankers are more exciting for investors than<br />
others.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.financialexpress.com/news/column-demystifying-swiss-banking/804214/0"><em>Demystifying Swiss banking</em></a> by Priti Patnaik, in the <em>Financial Express</em>.</p>
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<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin">Imagine there&#8217;s no central bank</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/06/inside-google-plus-social/all/1">Steven Levy</a> has a great story of how Google built Plus, in <em>Wired</em> magazine. And, PC World magazine on where and why <a href="http://www.pcworld.com/article/234825/9_reasons_to_switch_from_facebook_to_google.html">Google<br />
Plus is better</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/67885/sebastian-mallaby/can-the-brics-take-the-imf?page=show">Sebastian Mallaby</a> in <em>Foreign Affairs</em> on how emerging markets should play the appointment problem of the IMF MD.</p>
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		<dc:creator>The Gold Report</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p> Economic cycles, like weather, run in seasons. Longwave Group Founder Ian Gordon explains why he believes the world economy is in the &#8220;winter&#8221; portion of an approximate 80-year cycle and how the financial excesses of the past 60 years are now being wrung out of the system. Ian also explains how investors can <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2011/05/25/ian-gordon-gold-stocks-offer-protection-from-financial-storm/">Ian Gordon: Gold Stocks Offer Protection from Financial Storm</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.streetwisereports.com/images/Ian_Gordon_rev.jpg" alt="Ian Gordon" hspace="10" align="left" /> Economic cycles, like weather, run in seasons. Longwave Group Founder  Ian Gordon explains why he believes the world economy is in the &#8220;winter&#8221;  portion of an approximate 80-year cycle and how the financial excesses  of the past 60 years are now being wrung out of the system. Ian also  explains how investors can prepare to profit from the coming financial  storm by positioning themselves in gold and junior gold stocks in this  exclusive interview with <em>The Gold Report.</em></p>
<p><strong><em>The Gold Report: </em></strong>Good morning Ian. Thanks for taking the  time to bring us up to date with your current thoughts about the  economic situation and on specific companies you think our readers might  be interested in learning about today. When you spoke with <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/na/8218" target="_blank"><em>The Gold Report</em></a> in January, you expressed your thoughts on where things were headed.  Can you give us an idea of what you think people should do with their  financial investments now in order to protect their assets? What changes  do you see, and what do you think now in light of what&#8217;s happened since  January?</p>
<p><strong>Ian Gordon: </strong>I think things are actually getting  worse. Basically, the currencies of the world are under fire right now.  I&#8217;m not sure that the euro will even survive this year. All it will take  will be one country, like Greece, to leave it, and then the whole thing  will probably collapse like a house of cards. Of course, the U.S.  dollar, as the reserve currency, has been under fire, as well. So, I  think things are coming to a head here, which is something we  anticipated in our own work because it&#8217;s based on the <a href="http://www.longwavegroup.com/principle.php" target="_blank">Long (Kondratiev) Wave Theory</a>.</p>
<p>In  2011, we see parallels to 1931 because we&#8217;re 80 years beyond that time.  We believe 20-year cycles are important anniversaries, and this is just  four twenties. In 1931, the whole world monetary system effectively  collapsed. We&#8217;ve been long anticipating a collapse in the current world  monetary system based on the collapse of 1931. However, we see that the  current collapse is going to have far more significant and devastating  implications than the collapse between 1931 and 1933 simply because it&#8217;s  the collapse of the paper-money system now. Essentially, paper money is  credit money. When paper money fails, credit fails. Effectively, the  economy will fail on credit.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> So, given what could be  a major upheaval in the way the global economic cycle works, if this  all comes to pass, what sort of system will we end up with? Are we going  back to the gold standard or something similar to it? How is this going  to happen, how long is it going to take and what are the implications  for investors?</p>
<p><strong>IG:</strong> I&#8217;m pretty sure that we will go back to  a gold standard system. Paper-money systems have never survived  throughout history. Generally, they&#8217;ve been set around a one-country  experiment. And when those have failed, as in France after <a href="http://mshistory.k12.ms.us/articles/70/john-law-and-the-mississippi-bubble-1718-1720" target="_blank">John Law&#8217;s paper-money scheme</a> failed in 1720 or the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assignat" target="_blank">Assignat</a> failed in about 1798, there was tremendous upheaval. And, following  these failures, the country resumed gold as the backing for its  currency. So, I think we have to go back to something like that because,  in essence, gold enforces discipline on governments. We&#8217;ve seen a  complete lack of discipline in the paper-money system that&#8217;s been  ongoing since the 1931 collapse of the world monetary system.  Paper-money printing has just gotten out of control; and now, parallel  to the paper-money printing is the debt. They go hand in hand.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve  built massive debt worldwide, which, in total, is probably well in  excess of $100 trillion. In the U.S. alone, the total debt is something  like $57 trillion. So, that debt is starting to be wrung out of the  world&#8217;s economies and everybody is facing a pretty frightening  depression.</p>
<p>As investors, we have to protect ourselves as best  we can. We&#8217;ve long been advocating positions in gold and gold stocks. In  fact, we&#8217;ve been 100% positioned in both of those—physical and gold  stocks—since 2000 because our cycle told us that that&#8217;s where we should  put our assets. So, that&#8217;s what we&#8217;ve done. I think investors have to do  that and they have to be out of the general stock market because,  eventually, the stock market has to reflect the realities of the  economy. The current U.S. stock market has been propped up by  quantitative easing (QE) with massive amounts of money injected into the  banking system. That banking system is not putting that money back into  the economy because consumers are completely tapped out; they can&#8217;t  borrow any more money. So, much of the money the Federal Reserve is  putting into the banks is being used for speculation.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Can we pursue the mechanics of this a bit further before we get into  more-specific investing ideas? Given the internationalization of the  world economy and money being just electronic numbers on computer  systems, how does the world get back on some sort of a hard-money  standard without years of turmoil?</p>
<p><strong>IG:</strong> When the global monetary system started to collapse in 1931, it began with the failure of the Austrian <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creditanstalt" target="_blank">Creditanstalt</a> Bank in Europe. Everyone was trying to bail out this large bank. The  Fed was trying to bail it out, the Bank of England was trying to bail it  out and JP Morgan also was in there trying to bail it out. They all  knew the implications of the failure of this one bank would cause the  bankruptcy of Austria and the failure of many other banks plagued with  rotten paper money on their books. So, when this bank collapsed in May  1931, it was the beginning of the end of the world monetary system. A  bankrupted Austria was forced out of the gold exchange standard system  and was soon followed by Germany. Great Britain was forced out of the  monetary system in September 1931, which effectively brought down the  entire world monetary system. A new monetary system didn&#8217;t evolve until  1944 when the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bretton_Woods_system" target="_blank">Bretton Woods system</a> was signed into law. It was a long hiatus. The parallels with the  current evolving monetary system collapse are pretty plain to see.</p>
<p>After  1931, America was pretty self-sufficient, had all the oil and food it  needed and became very isolationist. Great Britain traded within its  then-empire. World trade collapsed following 1931 and 2011 may well be a  repeat of that tragic year, with the collapse of the euro and the  unraveling of the entire global monetary system. It could be a long  hiatus before a new system is developed. It goes back to that 20-year  anniversary cycle I mentioned. The pure gold standard system that had  evolved initially in Great Britain in 1821 collapsed in 1914 because the  combatants in World War I couldn&#8217;t remain on a gold standard system and  print the money they needed to fight the war. So, I would say that we  will likely return to a gold standard in 2014—100 years after the gold  standard collapsed in 1914.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> So, you&#8217;re saying  investors have a two- to three-year window to position themselves and  their investments to profit from what&#8217;s going to happen when this is all  turns around.</p>
<p><strong>IG:</strong> Right.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> We&#8217;ve had  all this volatility in the metals prices over the past year and some  substantial gains. How is this affecting companies in the mining  business?</p>
<p><strong>IG:</strong> For the main part, I&#8217;ve positioned myself  in either new producing companies or companies that have gold assets in  the ground. I&#8217;m principally more disposed to investing in gold than I am  in silver. I think these assets are going to be extremely valuable. I  met with one of my website subscribers just yesterday and said it&#8217;s  quite possible that there won&#8217;t be enough physical gold available on the  market to supply the demand. We produce only 80 million ounces (Moz.)  of gold a year from existing mines. I think, eventually, the demand for  gold will become so extreme that the producers won&#8217;t want to be paid in  paper money because the paper system is collapsing. So, gold may well be  taken out of the market, that&#8217;s why it is important to get the physical  bullion now rather than later. Of course, gold company stocks that  produce physical gold are going to be extremely valuable, as well.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Obviously, you&#8217;re quite selective about which companies you decide to  invest your own money in and suggest that other people do the same with  their money. What criteria do you use in selecting companies for your  portfolios?</p>
<p><strong>IG:</strong> First, I have to meet with management  before I ever put my money into a company. I realize that a lot of  investors can&#8217;t do that, but they can certainly talk to management. On  the junior side, management is usually very disposed to talking with  perspective shareholders. It&#8217;s just a matter of picking up the phone and  asking the president of a company why it is a good investment, and then  listening to the answers. I have to feel confident that a company&#8217;s  management will be able to produce what they say they&#8217;re going to  produce on behalf of the shareholders.</p>
<p>Another criterion that I  use is geopolitical risk. I want to invest only in companies that I am  confident are in politically secure jurisdictions. I have been bitten in  the past by investing in companies in countries that I thought were  politically secure, which became insecure. In Ecuador, the rules changed  and mining almost ceased to function in that country. So, I  particularly like companies that have assets in Canada, which I think is  a very safe jurisdiction. Many of the companies that I&#8217;ve selected for  my own portfolio have assets in Canada. I also like Mexico.</p>
<p>I  think the U.S. is ok, but I&#8217;m a bit worried about what might happen when  the whole system starts to collapse. After 9/11, I remember when an  unnamed Federal Reserve spokesman said in an interview that it looked at  many ways to avert a panic. One of the things he mentioned was buying  gold mines. If the U.S. doesn&#8217;t have the gold it purports to have, it  could well be that the country could nationalize gold companies. I do  have investments in companies that are exploring for gold in the U.S.,  but not a lot. I particularly like companies in Canada.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> There was a little fear recently about the possibility that the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democratic_Party" target="_blank">New Democratic Party (NDP)</a> may be coming back into power in British Columbia. Its administration  had a devastating effect a generation ago, when it caused the whole BC  mining industry to retrench. I guess that&#8217;s probably not going to happen  at this point; but if something like that was to happen, would that  possibly have a negative effect at least on BC?</p>
<p><strong>IG:</strong> Well,  it might. If the NDP does win in British Columbia, I think it probably  learned from past experience. Under recent governments, there&#8217;s been a  tremendous amount of exploration and a lot of companies going into  production in the Province. It&#8217;s going to be very hard to shut those  down because they&#8217;re all permitted under present mining laws. So, if the  NDP was to win in BC, it&#8217;s not something that I would be in favor of  because I live in the Province and know what negative effect it had on  the region&#8217;s mining not long ago. I think most of the companies in BC  now are sufficiently advanced in terms of their exploration, and some  have gone into production like <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/2197" target="_blank">Barkerville Gold Mines Ltd. (TSX.V:BGM)</a>. So, all the permitting is in place and it&#8217;s going to be very difficult to rescind it.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Can you bring us up to date on some of the companies you&#8217;ve talked  about with us previously and give us some ideas on others you&#8217;re looking  at?</p>
<p><strong>IG:</strong> I own shares of <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/2329" target="_blank">Fire River Gold Corp. (TSX.V:FAU; OTCQX:FVGCF)</a>.  I think the company&#8217;s put together an extremely strong management team  in order to put the Nixon Fork gold mine back into production, and I&#8217;m  confident that Fire River is going to succeed. Right now, on the basis  of the reserves the company&#8217;s put together through exploration, it  probably has only a three-year mine life. The company is going to  continue drilling to expand that resource and will be able to produce  50,000 ounces (Koz.) gold per year.</p>
<p>Barkerville Gold Mines is  probably my favorite gold-company investment at this time; I think it&#8217;s  very undervalued. The company currently produces about 50 Koz./year and  will probably more than double that when it brings the second mill  onstream. It&#8217;s a very large property, which I&#8217;ve been on, and I think it  has the potential to host a 5 Moz. gold resource. So, I&#8217;m very excited  about Barkerville, and I think it&#8217;s going to do extremely well. I have  about 15% of my portfolio invested in BGM.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Obviously, you&#8217;re voting with your money.</p>
<p><strong>IG:</strong> What I tend to do, and also advise for my subscribers, is to take large  positions in companies that I think are going to do very well and  smaller positions in companies where I&#8217;m not as confident. But, if those  companies really do well, they&#8217;ll boost the value of my portfolio. If  they don&#8217;t, they won&#8217;t hurt it that badly either. So, by taking a large  investment position in Barkerville, I am confident that the share price  will perform very well.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/534" target="_blank">Premier Gold Mines Ltd. (TSX:PG)</a> is another great company building an expanding resource. I like the  company very much. But I don&#8217;t own it because I think it&#8217;s expensive and  that&#8217;s due to CEO Ewan Downey&#8217;s past record and reputation. He&#8217;s the  CEO, president and director of the company and is a real mine finder. I  think he&#8217;s repeating his past success with Premier.</p>
<p>I like <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/2216" target="_blank">Millrock Resources Inc. (TSX.V:MRO)</a> because I have the utmost respect for Greg Beischer, its CEO and  president. He&#8217;s put some great properties in Alaska and Arizona into the  company, most of which he&#8217;s been able to joint venture (JVs) with major  companies. Big companies just don&#8217;t do JVs on properties that don&#8217;t  have big potential. So, I think Millrock is a company that, at these  prices, is probably undervalued. But it&#8217;s a little more grassroots than  my other investments.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/623" target="_blank">Timmins Gold Corp. (TSX.V:TMM)</a> is in production at its San Francisco Gold Mine in northern Mexico. I  think it will meet the objectives the management team set out for the  company, which was producing about 100 Koz. gold/year. Drilling results  near the mine show an expanding resource. This company has always been  an absolute standout in achieving the objectives its management sets. I  still own TMM shares and have done very well.</p>
<p>Another little company I particularly like right now, and own almost 10% of, is called <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/3635" target="_blank">Colibri Resource Corp. (TSX.V:CBI)</a>, which has all of its properties in northern Mexico. The company just completed a JV deal with <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/2" target="_blank">Agnico-Eagle Mines Ltd. (TSX:AEM; NYSE:AEM)</a> on a big gold property where the geology is fairly complex and very similar to La Herradura, which is a <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/457" target="_blank">Newmont Mining Corp. (NYSE:NEM)</a>/<a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/689" target="_blank">Fresnillo PLC (LSE:FRES)</a> JV property. The La Herradura property hosts roughly 12 Moz. gold and  is only about 12 km. away. Colibri also has a silver property that looks  extremely attractive. The company did some percussion drilling in 2006  and got great results, so it&#8217;s drilling it again. I&#8217;ve got just under  10% of the company. Sprott has just under 20% and Agnico-Eagle has just  under 20%. With Sprott and Agnico, Colibri has some very important  shareholders.</p>
<p>Another company I really like and own a lot of, and whose share price doesn&#8217;t reflect what I think it&#8217;s worth, is called <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/690" target="_blank">Temex Resources Corp. (TSX.V:TME; FSE:TQ1)</a>.  All of the company&#8217;s assets are in Ontario, Canada. It has about 1.2  Moz. gold at surface on its Shining Tree property averaging about 1.5  grams per ton (g/t), so it&#8217;s certainly mineable. You&#8217;re really only  paying maybe $40 per ounce of gold in the ground for this company. So, I  think Temex is extremely undervalued. I own a lot of the stock and  think it will do very well for shareholders.</p>
<p>Another one I like and have been buying lately is a company called <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/714" target="_blank">PC Gold Inc. (TSX:PKL)</a>.  Between my wife and me, we&#8217;ve probably accumulated about 1 million  shares. PC&#8217;s main asset is a past-producing, very high-grade mine on  Pickle Lake in Northwestern Ontario. The company has been drilling and  producing exceptionally good drill results and probably now has a  resource of more than 1 Moz. I think it&#8217;s extremely undervalued. I&#8217;ve  been buying it in the open market and believe it can do very well for  investors. So, there are a few more ideas.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Thank you for those great ideas. Did you have any last thoughts about the future of the economy you&#8217;d like to share?</p>
<p><strong>IG:</strong> Unfortunately, I&#8217;m very pessimistic about the economy. If paper money,  which is credit money, collapses, then, essentially, credit collapses  and the economy grinds to a halt. Quite a scary scenario could evolve  from a collapse in the paper-money system. We almost had a major credit  failure in 2008. What happens if credit does that again? Everything  stops—trucking stops, the movement of goods stops and it becomes a very  difficult time for everyone. I think people have to prepare for the  worst.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> We&#8217;ve certainly gotten used to a system that  is automated and electronic. People press buttons and expect results. If  things start falling apart as you predict, we could see some real  turmoil—financial and possibly even physical.</p>
<p><strong>IG:</strong> Investors need to keep those possibilities in mind and protect their  assets as best as they can. I&#8217;m a little reluctant to admit it, but one  of the things I keep on hand is a one-year supply of food. It&#8217;s a  relatively inexpensive way of protecting your food source. If the system  falls apart, as it could, you won&#8217;t be able to run down to the store  and get what you want when you need it.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Thank you very much, Ian, for your valuable insights and recommendations.</p>
<p><strong>IG:</strong> Thank you very much.</p>
<p><em>A globally renowned economic forecaster, author and speaker, <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/htdocs/expert.html?id=2700" target="_blank">Ian Gordon</a> is founder and chairman of the <a href="http://www.longwavegroup.com/" target="_blank">Longwave Group</a>,  comprising two companies—Longwave Analytics and Longwave Strategies.  The former specializes in Ian&#8217;s ongoing study and analysis of the  Longwave Principle originally expounded by Nikolai Kondratiev. With  Longwave Strategies, Ian assists select precious metal companies in  financings. Educated in England, Ian graduated from the Royal Military  Academy, Sandhurst. After a few years serving as a platoon commander in a  Scottish regiment, Ian moved to Canada in 1967 and entered the  University of Manitoba&#8217;s History Department. Taking that step has had a  profound impact because, during this period, he began to study the  historical trends that ultimately provided the foundation for his Long  Wave theory. Ian has been publishing his Long Wave Analyst website since  1998. Eric Sprott, chairman, CEO and portfolio manager at Sprott Asset  Management, describes Ian as &#8220;a rare breed in the investment-advisor  arena.&#8221; He notes that Ian&#8217;s forecasts &#8220;have taken on a life force of  their own and if you care to listen, Ian will tell you how it will all  end.&#8221;</em></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>There is more to the periodic table—and to investing opportunities—than gold, silver and copper. Siddharth Rajeev, vice president and head of research at Fundamental Research Corp., sums up the market prospects for rare earth elements (REE) and a host of metals. He unearths some new names and some historical finds in this exclusive interview <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2011/03/08/siddharth-rajeevs-commodities-rundown-from-au-to-v/">Siddharth Rajeev&#8217;s Commodities Rundown, From Au To V</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span><img src="http://www.theaureport.com/images/SidRajeevPic.jpeg" alt="" align="left" /><em>There  is more to the periodic table—and to investing opportunities—than gold,  silver and copper. Siddharth Rajeev, vice president and head of  research at Fundamental Research Corp., sums up the market prospects for  rare earth elements (REE) and a host of metals. He unearths some new  names and some historical finds in this exclusive interview with </em>The Gold Report.</p>
<p><strong><em>The Gold Report:</em></strong> Sid, today we&#8217;re going to talk about a number of different metals:  gold, silver, vanadium, copper and rare earths. Could you handicap each  of those metals for us, starting with gold, copper and silver?</p>
<p><strong>Siddharth Rajeev:</strong> Let&#8217;s look first at the factors that have been driving up commodity  prices. We think two key factors are responsible. Number one is  increasing global demand; the second is the continued weakness in the  U.S. dollar.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at increasing global demand. We believe  in the Brazil, Russia, India and China (BRIC) story and we expect  continued growth from those countries. We believe that the U.S. economy  will continue to see a gradual recovery. So, we expect increasing demand  from the U.S. and continued demand growth from the BRIC countries to  keep the demand side strong. Thus, the first factor looks good for the  commodities market.</p>
<p>However, we expect the second factor, which  is the U.S. dollar, to gradually improve with respect to other  currencies as the U.S. economy improves. That should have a negative  impact on the commodities market.</p>
<p>So, we expect to see some sort  of correction this year. For example, copper is at $4.45/lb. We do not  think these prices are sustainable in the long term and therefore we  expect to see some kind of correction.</p>
<p>In terms of gold, we  believe that as the U.S. economy recovers and the U.S. dollar  strengthens, investors would move away from safe-haven assets such as  gold and put their money where it could achieve higher returns. So, over  the long term we expect the gold price to soften. But, in the near  term, uncertainty regarding the U.S. and European economies and  inflationary scares should give us high gold prices.</p>
<p>As to  copper, we don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s sustainable at such prices over the long  term. Even though demand looks very strong, we expect prices to drop  with the gradual recovery in the U.S dollar.</p>
<p>Silver is unique as  it behaves like a capital preservation asset, such as gold, as well as  like a commodity due to its industrial applications. The uncertainty in  the U.S. and Europe and inflationary pressures, combined with continued  demand growth from Asia and the BRIC countries, are some of the reasons  we think silver has been one of the best movers recently.</p>
<p>Although  we think silver should soften in the long term, we think that silver  should stay strong in the near term due to the same reasons as gold. In  our valuation models, we use a long-term (2014+) price of US$18.35/oz.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> What price are you using for gold price?</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> We use a long-term gold price of US$1,000/oz.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> What can you tell us about vanadium and rare earths?</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> Unlike other commodities, vanadium prices have not been as volatile in  the last 18 months. They&#8217;ve stayed around $7/lb. for over a year. Over  the long term we have a good outlook on the commodity. We believe strong  growth in steel consumption, especially from China and India, will be  the key demand drivers. Steel accounts for 90% of vanadium demand; so  vanadium demand is highly correlated to the steel segment.</p>
<p>The  use of vanadium in battery and renewable energy storage devices is  expected to drive the demand up. Vanadium supply is expected to remain  quite stable from the three major producing countries—China, Russia and  South Africa. We think the demand side should keep prices high.</p>
<p>The  main factor driving up rare earth prices is the supply side. China  accounts for 97% of all production, and has been cutting down  significantly on its rare earth exports. China also has been increasing  the demand for rare earths. The U.S. currently imports nearly 100% of  its rare earths consumption. We are bullish on REE prices primarily  because of the concentrated supply conditions.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> So,  the more obscure you get, the better the outlook. There seems to be a  bit of a contradiction in that you see softening prices for copper, but  strengthening prices for vanadium. Both of those metals have the same  sort of investment thesis. Why are you bullish on one and not so bullish  on the other?</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> That&#8217;s because copper has moved up by  40%–50% in the last 12 months, while vanadium has stayed pretty  constant. For the last 12 months vanadium has been around $7/lb. It has  not really moved up, while copper has moved up significantly. So we  think copper will have a higher price correction.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> What would have to happen in the Middle East before you would be willing to be bullish on the gold price?</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> Obviously the turmoil in the Middle East is positive to commodities  such as gold and oil. But, we think those factors are short-term  catalysts. Over the long term, we do not think these incidents should  play a role. Historically, all of these geopolitical tensions around the  world cause sudden and short-term spikes in prices. They&#8217;ve not really  had an impact over the long term.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> In the 1970s there  was an oil crisis that lasted about five years that paralleled a run in  the gold price. Five years is pretty long term.</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> High  oil prices typically result in high inflation and high gold price. So if  the problems in the Middle East somehow impact long-term oil supply, we  will see high gold prices for a prolonged duration. We have not seen  anything so far in the Middle East that brings up concerns over the  long-term supply of oil.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> The other thing to consider is that if a company looks good at $1,000/oz., it will look very good at any price above that.</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> Certainly.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Quite a few of the small cap companies in your coverage universe are exploring for gold. Many of them have never appeared in <em>The Gold Report</em>. Could you give us a few under-the-radar names that our readers should know about?</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> I will name three companies today that we really like. I&#8217;ll start with <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/2060" target="_blank">Rio Alto Mining Limited (TSX.V:RIO; BVL:RIO; OTCQX:RIOAF)</a>.  It has an advanced-stage project. We picked them up for coverage in  January 2010, when they were at $0.46. Today, its price is over $2.40.  The main deposit is the La Arena Deposit, which has over a million  ounces of gold in oxide. The company also has a copper gold sulphide  resource (adjacent to the oxides), which has close to 2.9 billion pounds  of copper and over 3 million ounces (3 Moz.) of gold. The company plans  to put the oxide into production in Q211. Construction commenced in  August 2010. The sulphide should go into production in the next three to  four years. The company has an extremely strong management team. They  recently raised close to $58 million in equity financing.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> One noteworthy thing about La Arena is that it&#8217;s not too far from <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/20" target="_blank">Barrick Gold Corporation&#8217;s (TSX:ABX; NYSE:ABX)</a> Lagunas Norte project. Do you see Rio Alto as a possible takeover target?</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> Yes, especially these days when investors and majors are more  interested in higher quality assets because of the volatility in  commodity prices. Investors and majors are looking for more advanced,  quality projects. We believe Rio Alto fits into that category. We cover  about 150 small- to mid-cap companies, and we think Rio has one of the  best deposits in our coverage.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> And your second gold name?</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/602" target="_blank">Evolving Gold Corp. (TSX.V:EVG; Fkft:EV7)</a> has made a huge discovery at its Rattlesnake Hills Gold Project in  Wyoming. The company also has the Carlin project in Nevada. They have  done aggressive drilling in the last couple of years and the results  have been extremely impressive. Evolving Gold doesn&#8217;t have an NI 43-101  resource estimate, but we came up with an internal resource estimate. We  think the project should have at least 1.5 Moz. gold. This company also  has a strong management team and a strong cash position. In July 2010, <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/23" target="_blank">Goldcorp Inc. (TSX:G; NYSE:GG)</a> invested $15 million in Evolving Gold, which is a huge vote of confidence for investors.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> What&#8217;s the next stage for Evolving? Could we see a preliminary economic assessment (PEA) in the near term?</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> I think the next step is a NI 43-101- compliant resource estimate.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> When can we expect that?</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> We would like to see it sometime this year.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> And your guesstimate was 1.5 Moz. But, you tend to be on the conservative side.</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> Right. For valuation purposes we&#8217;re slightly on the conservative side.  Our fair value on Evolving is $1.40 per share. We have a BUY (Risk 5:  Speculative) rating.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> And your third gold name?</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> This is a slightly different company from the previous two I mentioned. The company is called <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/734" target="_blank">49 North Resources Inc. (TSX.V:FNR)</a>.  It&#8217;s a resource investment company based out of Saskatchewan. It is  Saskatchewan&#8217;s first publicly traded resource investment company, with  close to $65 million in assets under management. It invests in early  stage resource projects, including minerals, oil and gas. Right now, the  majority of the investments are in oil and gas and precious metals.</p>
<p>We  think this company offers investors a very good opportunity to hold a  diverse portfolio of assets in different sectors, different regions.  Investors also get the opportunity to participate in the upside  potential of private company investments. FNR shares are currently  trading at a 30% discount to the NAV (net asset value). We will be  initiating coverage on this company shortly.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> It&#8217;s  quite a diverse group of assets that 49 holds: coal, diamonds, uranium,  base metals, a little bit of gold. What are your thoughts on that  business model? It is a bit unusual.</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> Yes. For example,  the company owns 150 to 200 stocks in its portfolio, but the top 15 of  its holdings account for over 60% of its NAV. We think it&#8217;s a very good  business model, especially because the CEO and President Tom MacNeill  has a lot of experience and is well known in the industry.</p>
<p>One of its best success stories so far include its investment in Athabasca Potash, which was later acquired by <a href="http://www.theenergyreport.com/pub/co/172" target="_blank">BHP Billiton Ltd. (NYSE:BHP; OTCPK:BHPLF)</a>. FNR made a 611% gain in that investment.</p>
<p>Basically,  this model offers investors an opportunity to get exposure to the  upside of the junior resource market with lower risk due to the fact  that the company holds a diverse portfolio. We think the return/risk  ratio is higher for this kind of model.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Let&#8217;s move  on to silver. Silver outperformed gold in 2010 on a percentage basis and  is off to a very good start in 2011. Although you see some softness in  silver, what are some silver names that our readers might be interested  in?</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> We cover two very good silver stories right now. One is an advanced stage company called <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/292" target="_blank">SilverCrest Mines Inc. (TSX.V:SVL)</a>.  In September, the company announced the first gold and silver pour at  the Santa Elena Project in Mexico. We expect commercial production to be  announced this quarter. SVL expects annual production of 35,000 oz of  gold and 0.6 Moz. of silver. This is an open-pit, heap-leach operation.  The company plans to expand operations to over 100,000 ozs. in the next  couple of years. Again, this company has a strong management team;  something which is important for any junior. Our fair value for  SilverCrest is $2.84 per share.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> What&#8217;s the second silver name?</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> It is a relatively under-followed, under-explored company called <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/3481" target="_blank">Thunder Mountain Gold Inc. (TSX.V:THM, OTCBB:THMG)</a>.  Its key property is the South Mountain Project in Idaho. It&#8217;s a  past-producing mine. It currently has a resource of 3.4 million tons  (Mts.) of indicated and inferred resource. It&#8217;s a polymetallic deposit,  in which the primary metal is silver. The deposit is open at depth and  along strike. The company is also developing a new gold target close to  the historic mine which we think should add more resources. It&#8217;s working  on a PEA and an updated resource estimate.</p>
<p>Our fair value on  the stock is $0.70 and it&#8217;s trading at $0.25 per share. To value the  stock we looked at the average enterprise value to resource ratio of its  peers. Thunder Mountain is trading at $0.47/silver oz., while the peer  average ratio is $1.34. We think that it&#8217;s undervalued at this price.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> That&#8217;s precisely the kind of name we&#8217;re looking for. Now let&#8217;s move on  to rare earths. Their price appreciation was dramatic in 2010. What are  some companies with REE projects that could show some promise in 2011?</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> We cover a lot of companies in the rare earth segment. I will talk about three of our top companies, starting with <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/610" target="_blank">Commerce Resources Corp. (TSX.V:CCE; Fkft:D7H; OTCQX:CMRZF)</a>.  It&#8217;s focusing on its Blue River Project in British Columbia, which is  an advanced stage project. Then it has an early-stage exploration  project in Eldor, Quebec, where it&#8217;s done some aggressive drilling and  is getting very impressive results. Based on the results at Eldor we  believe that the continuity, depth and thickness of the mineralization  are positive signs for a near-surface REE deposit. The company announced  an updated resource estimate at Blue River in February, with  significant increases in tonnage and tantalum oxide and niobium oxide  content.</p>
<p>REE prices have gone up significantly. Let&#8217;s look at  tantalum. Its price moved up by 42% in the last four months, from  $120/lb. to $171/lb. We continue to believe that demand for tantalum,  which is used in electronic products, will increase. The supply side is  very concentrated. For example, Australia and Brazil alone account for  50% of the production. The concentrated supply and increasing demand,  and lack of production in the U.S. shows the importance of advanced  stage tantalum explorers like Commerce.</p>
<p>Our fair value on  Commerce Resources&#8217; stock is $1.51 per share. Right now, I think it&#8217;s  trading at around $1.00. To get that valuation, we used long-term  tantalum price of $120/lb.; the current price is $171/lb. For niobium,  which is used in making steel, we used $15/lb.; the current price is  $23/lb. Even based on our conservative price forecast, we think it has  an economic deposit at Blue River.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Any other REE names?</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> Another name is <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/3480" target="_blank">Quantum Rare Earth Developments Corp. (TSX.V:QRE; FSE:BR3; OTCQX:QREDF)</a>.  It&#8217;s developing the Elk Creek carbonatite complex in the U.S. It has  had historic exploration. The historical resource is 39 Mts. of 0.82%  niobium oxide. According to the U.S. Geological Survey, this property  may hold one of the world&#8217;s largest resources of niobium and REE. A few  months ago, the company raised close to $6.5 million. Our valuation on  the stock is $0.85 per share, and it is trading at $0.53.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> What do you think of Quantum&#8217;s CEO Peter Dickie?</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> We&#8217;ve been following Peter Dickie and his associates for several years.  They&#8217;ve been involved in some good projects in the past. We believe  Quantum has a good management team.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Can you give us one more name?</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> In the rare earth segment is a lithium company called <a href="http://www.theenergyreport.com/pub/co/3347" target="_blank">Rock Tech Lithium (TSX.V:RCK; Fkft:RJIA)</a>.  It&#8217;s exploring for lithium and rare metals in Ontario and Quebec. The  main project is its 100%-owned Georgia Lake Project, which has historic  resources of 9.8 Mts. with grades of 1.18% lithium oxide (Li2O). The  company is conducting a 4,000-meter drilling program that should be  completed in the first week of March. The company expects a NI 43-101  resource by mid-2011.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> It&#8217;s hit high-grade spodumene there. And you can get lithium out of spodumene, correct?</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> Yes, that&#8217;s right.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> In terms of other similar deposits around the world, is the Georgia Lake project similar grade, higher grade, lower grade?</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> I would say the grades are good..</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> What&#8217;s your fair value on Rock Tech?</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> We are currently updating our valuation on the company.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Do you cover any vanadium plays?</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> There&#8217;s a company called <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/2113" target="_blank">Apella Resources Inc. (TSX.V:APA; Fkft:NWN)</a>,  based out of Vancouver. It&#8217;s exploring for vanadium and titanium in  central Quebec. Its Iron-T property has a resource of 11.6 Mts. inferred  and 0.73% vanadium oxide equivalent.</p>
<p>But this resource estimate  covers only a small portion of the known mineral-bearing complex. We  feel that the company can significantly increase the resource outside of  the current resource area. We valued the stock by looking at similar  stage vanadium projects. The average ratio of enterprise value to  vanadium resource is around $0.06/lb. We used that multiple to value  Apella&#8217;s projects. Our fair value on APA is $0.65. The shares are  currently trading at $0.21.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> To close, what do you see happening, on a macro level, over the next year or so?</p>
<p><strong>SR:</strong> Overall, we expect to see some sort of correction in the commodities  market with the gradual recovery in the U.S. dollar. Precious metals  should stay relatively strong in the near term due to the continued  uncertainties in the U.S. and Europe and inflationary pressures.</p>
<p>For  investors at this point, because of the uncertainty in the markets and  the volatility in commodity prices, the main strategy should be to look  for companies with quality advanced stage assets.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Sid, thanks for your time.</p>
<p><em>Siddharth Rajeev joined <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/" target="_blank">Fundamental Research Corp.</a> in April 2006. At FRC, he oversees the research department, and also  covers a broad array of companies, primarily in the energy, mining, and  technology sectors. Prior to FRC, he has had a mix of engineering and  finance experience including corporate finance experience at a leading  Investment Bank in Kuwait. Sid has ranked as a four-star analyst in the  energy and mining sectors by Deutsche Asset Management, a division of  Deutsche Bank.</p>
<p>Sid holds a bachelor of technology degree in  electronics engineering from Cochin University of Science &amp;  Technology, and an MBA in finance from The University of British  Columbia. He is a CFA Charterholder, and has completed studies in  exploration and prospecting at the British Columbia Institute of  Technology. Sid is sought by the media for commentary on the valuation  of small cap stocks and industries he covers, and is a speaker at  various investment conferences. </em></span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p> Sprott Asset Management Senior Portfolio Manager Charles Oliver says the social unrest in the Middle East could lead to a premium for junior companies operating in North and South America. He&#8217;s even betting on it, saying, &#8220;I believe juniors will give you the best long-term outperformance and alpha.&#8221; He&#8217;s taken profits on companies <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2011/03/04/charles-oliver-out-of-africa-into-americas/">Charles Oliver: Out of Africa, into Americas</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span><img src="http://www.theaureport.com/images/charles_oliver.jpg" alt="" align="left" /> <em>Sprott  Asset Management Senior Portfolio Manager Charles Oliver says the  social unrest in the Middle East could lead to a premium for junior  companies operating in North and South America. He&#8217;s even betting on it,  saying, &#8220;I believe juniors will give you the best long-term  outperformance and alpha.&#8221; He&#8217;s taken profits on companies with exposure  to Africa and moved that cash into others with primary assets in the  Americas, where, he says, there is much lower risk. Charles discusses a  basket full of those names in this exclusive interview with </em>The Gold Report.</p>
<p><strong><em>The Gold Report:</em></strong> Charles, the <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/3180" target="_blank">Sprott Gold and Precious Minerals Fund (TSX:SPR300)</a> had an impressive 74.7% gain in 2010. That same fund was up 114% in 2009. Congratulations!</p>
<p><strong>Charles Oliver:</strong> Thank you very much.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Most of those gains came from dramatic rises in gold and silver juniors  but more recently you trimmed back a lot of those positions in exchange  for positions in large-cap gold producers. Why the change in philosophy  after having such success with the juniors?</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> It&#8217;s not  actually a change in philosophy. I love the juniors. I believe juniors  will give you the best long-term outperformance and alpha. I&#8217;m  continually upgrading the portfolio and improving it. Generally  speaking, I like to have about one-third large caps, one-third mid caps  and one-third small caps. The large caps give you liquidity and act as  an anchor. In 2009, we saw great performance from the mid caps, but in  2010 they slowed down and a lot of the small caps took off.</p>
<p>In  2003, I did something very similar. I took some of my stocks, which were  getting a little expensive on a relative basis, trimmed those positions  and redeployed them into the best opportunities out there. Right now,  I&#8217;m finding the large caps are the cheapest segment out there. I am  still buying some mid and some small caps, but I&#8217;m looking for those  companies that are significantly underpriced. It&#8217;s a continuing  philosophy; there is no change.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> But what&#8217;s going to  make those large caps move? We haven&#8217;t seen a dramatic movement in  large-cap share prices despite having a gold price above $1,300/oz. for  some time.</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> You&#8217;re absolutely correct. The large caps  have performed terribly over the last four or five years for a couple of  reasons. When the gold exchange traded funds (ETFs) came out, a lot of  money that had been in large caps migrated to the ETFs. That&#8217;s been  going on for several years. When people migrate out of the large caps  they help depress the price. So when I look at the large caps today I&#8217;m  seeing valuations that are cheaper than I&#8217;ve seen this decade. If you  look at companies like <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/23" target="_blank">Goldcorp Inc. (TSX:G; NYSE:GG)</a> and <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/20" target="_blank">Barrick Gold Corporation (TSX:ABX; NYSE:ABX)</a>—the  big boys out there—these companies are trading very close to where they  were in 2006 and 2007 when gold was at $600–$700/oz. Today, we&#8217;ve got  nearly double that gold price.</p>
<p>These companies are making huge  profits and generating a lot of cash flow. I think there&#8217;s going to be a  day when people suddenly wake up and say, &#8220;Wow, look at the value!&#8221; I  think part of the driver will be new investment from dividend-seeking  individuals, dividend funds and value funds. If you look at dividend  funds, they never held a gold stock because, during the 20-year bear  market in gold, most gold companies weren&#8217;t paying a dividend and those  that were certainly weren&#8217;t increasing it. Today, companies like Barrick  are actually increasing their dividends and have the potential to do  even more. I&#8217;m looking for that tipping point and I believe it will  come.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> In a <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/na/6457" target="_blank">June 2010 interview with <em>The Gold Report</em></a><em>, </em>you  said gold would go above $2,000/oz. based largely on further paper  currency debasement. But, supply/demand fundamentals don&#8217;t seem to  support a higher gold price. A recent World Gold Council report said  total investment demand for gold fell about 14.3% in 2010 and scrap  supply continues to pour in at record levels, reaching about 1,650 tons  that year. Obviously, social unrest in countries like Libya and Bahrain  continue to push gold higher based on the safe-haven bid but does it  concern you that total gold demand is, in fact, retreating?</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> It doesn&#8217;t, actually. If I thought that was a long-term theme, it would  be a big concern. But, having said that, I think you have to look at  the numbers and make sure you put them in proper perspective. Investment  demand is often a plug for all the other numbers that go into the  supply/demand numbers. Consequently, many numbers actually don&#8217;t get  included in that final demand number.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at it in a slightly different way. Gold mine supply today is roughly 2,650 tons. We use the numbers from <a href="http://www.gfms.co.uk/" target="_blank">Gold Field Minerals Services</a> and if you look at investment demand over most of the last decade,  basically it&#8217;s been flat. You didn&#8217;t really get significant investment  demand until 2009 when, by GFMS&#8217; calculations, it was around 1,400 tons.  Now going from practically nothing to 1,400 tons when mine supply is  only 2,500 is a huge difference.</p>
<p>If you look at 2010, GFMS has  an investment demand number of 967 tons. Is it a significant decrease?  On first blush it seems quite significant, but it&#8217;s the second-highest  level of investment demand in the last decade. The trend is clearly up.  I&#8217;ve been reading reports that Chinese and Indian citizens are  increasing their gold purchases at record levels. When I look at the  other things around me, they suggest that we are more likely to see  higher demand in the future. When you look at sales from the U.S.,  Canadian, Australian or any other Mint, you&#8217;ll find most of them are  running at record production levels due to individuals buying coins.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> And central banks have stopped selling their gold, too.</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> Yes, that&#8217;s another good example. If you go back to 2005, the central  banks, as a group, were selling about 600 tons of gold annually. When  you have mine supply at 2,600 tons, and then you get another 600 tons on  top of it, there&#8217;s a fair amount of gold out there. Today, those 600  tons are no longer being sold into the market. And we are seeing central  banks actually buying gold.</p>
<p>In 2010, we saw India announce that  it added 200 tons. We&#8217;ve seen some of the smaller banks buying, too,  like Mauritius, Sri Lanka. We&#8217;ve seen China indicate that it&#8217;s been  buying over the last several years, though, the country doesn&#8217;t  officially report that on a regular basis. And a Russian minister said  the country was looking at adding about 100 tons of gold on average each  year to its reserves. So, a lot of the anecdotal evidence suggests that  investment demand is actually increasing.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Let&#8217;s go  back to the Middle East for a moment. The unrest there has pushed gold  up about $100 over the past couple of weeks. Have the ongoing issues  there or in northern Africa caused you to change your investment  strategy in the near term?</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> One slight difference is  that I&#8217;ve become a little more cautious on Africa in general. Many gold  companies have exposure to Africa. The speed at which some of these  countries are destabilizing has caused me concern. I think that most of  the countries where mines operate will be fine; but having said that, I  am cognizant there could be some nervous investors who decide they want  to reduce their ownership in those areas. I&#8217;ve taken some profits from  those areas and redeployed them back into what I deem are safer  jurisdictions like North and South America.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Do you believe what&#8217;s happening in northern Africa and the Middle East is the &#8220;mania&#8221; catalyst the gold bugs have been seeking?</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> Generally speaking, most crises pass and get resolved. Frequently, you  see the gold price run up only to fall back down the next day. I try to  block out these events because often they don&#8217;t really change the  long-term value of gold. The concern, however, would be if this becomes  more systemic and global in nature. In that case, I certainly think it  would have a larger, more-lasting impact. But, again, I think you want  to look at how destabilizing this is on Europe and the U.S. If it  spreads to Saudi Arabia, that would cause me great concern.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Well, King Abdullah recently announced $37 billion in appeasement money  over the next few years in an attempt to stave off any unrest.</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> That&#8217;s a nice way to put it. The fact that they&#8217;re actually doing that  leads one to believe that these guys must be getting a little bit  nervous about the situation.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> You mentioned safe  jurisdictions like North and South America. Is there a price premium on  companies with gold projects in those jurisdictions due to the unrest  elsewhere?</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> Over the last decade, there&#8217;ve been  periods when I would say there was a price premium on North American  projects and some of the other countries have versus those in other  less-desirable or more-risky areas. I think we may be embarking upon  that situation once again, but we haven&#8217;t seen a huge movement occur  yet. As I said, I&#8217;ve started trimming and moving more money out of my  African countries. Again, that&#8217;s commensurate with the discount rate  that should be used for different countries and their associated risks.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Are you still finding value in companies with projects in North and South America?</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> When I look at the basket of opportunities in North America, some  companies are expensive and some are dirt cheap. I&#8217;m finding lots of  opportunities to add in the North American space.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> What are some juniors with projects in North America that you believe can be had at good value?</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> There are companies like <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/619" target="_blank">San Gold Corporation (TSX.V:SGR)</a>; we&#8217;re big shareholders of San Gold. We&#8217;re also big shareholders of <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/630" target="_blank">Kirkland Lake Gold Inc. (TSX:KGI)</a>.  The company is producing 100,000 ounces (100 Koz.), has the potential  to triple that production and is trading at dirt-cheap valuations  relative to most of the other companies out there.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> And Kirkland Lake&#8217;s conducting more underground drilling so it could further increase its resource, too.</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> Yes, I visited the property last summer and looked at some of the new  underground drill platforms. I remember asking about how much drilling  the company would be doing from this one particular platform. Kirkland  said, &#8220;Well, we&#8217;ve got this new area that&#8217;s never been drilled before.  It&#8217;s right beside our existing underground mine. We&#8217;re going to drill it  for two or three years.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just this past month, the company  announced some of the first drill results from that campaign. It&#8217;s very  early stages but it looks like Kirkland Lake will be adding more  resources to an already very significant resource, which would increase  its ability to expand production.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> What are its cash costs there?</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> The cash costs are a little high, about $700/oz. right now. The  company&#8217;s trying to bring it down to a more reasonable level. The  precise cash costs for the Macassa mine are $709 in Q111 and $809 in  Q211.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> What are some other names that offer value?</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> Another company I quite like is <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/486" target="_blank">Osisko Mining Corp. (TSX:OSK)</a>.  Osisko has had a great run up recently as it&#8217;s moved toward production.  My understanding is it&#8217;s just about to start running the mill and  producing gold.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Did it alarm you when Goldcorp sold off its 10% interest in advance of production?</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> No, I think Goldcorp has lots of opportunities. I think it would&#8217;ve  liked to have gotten Osisko at a dirt-cheap price because Osisko has  done a great job of building up the company—not just with the new  Malartic mine in Quebec, but the company also bought Brett Resources  Inc. and its Hammond Reef project, which it&#8217;s drilling extensively.  Osisko also got the Duparquet joint venture (JV) with <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/588" target="_blank">Clifton Star Resources Inc. (TSX.V:CFO)</a>.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> And you still have a position in Clifton Star, right?</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> Yes, I do hold some Clifton Star, as well. We trimmed our position in  Osisko earlier this year. It had done very well but we&#8217;ve seen the  company consolidate over the last number of months. As it&#8217;s done further  drilling and gotten closer to production, I think the story has  improved. You&#8217;re looking at a company that&#8217;s trading in the low double  digits. I think this company has the potential to be one of the premier  emerging gold companies, and it&#8217;s Canadian.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> You also have a position in <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/2329" target="_blank">Fire River Gold Corp. (TSX.V:FAU; OTCQX:FVGCF)</a>. Why do you own shares in Harry Barr&#8217;s company?</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> We invested in Fire River Gold almost two years ago. I remember when  Harry came in to talk to me in 2009, talking about an asset he bought  from a company that was in financial distress. Many companies were  caught off guard by the magnitude of the 2008 correction.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Was he talking about <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/2226" target="_blank">St Andrews Goldfields Ltd. (TSX:SAS)</a>?</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> Yes. He managed to come up with $5 million to buy the Nixon Fork Gold  Project and plant. Harry bought those assets for a song. It&#8217;s going to  be small scale, but Fire River will be starting production in the next  several months. It&#8217;s got cash on the balance sheet, no debt and some of  the highest-grade ore out there—it&#8217;s nearly 1 oz./ton. And it&#8217;s planned  further drilling programs.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Some of that is to better  understand the geology of the deposit because St Andrews didn&#8217;t really  understand the deposit, so it got into some issues with the recovery  circuit and dilution.</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> Yes, mining is a very tough  business. You&#8217;ve got to find the gold, and then extract it  economically—that&#8217;s often quite a challenge. But Fire River has all the  parts. It really comes down to execution now.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Harry  certainly has the financing connections and the experience to lure the  kind of expertise needed to bring Nixon Fork to production. Another  project in Alaska that you have a position in is <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/751" target="_blank">Kiska Metals Corp.&#8217;s (TSX.V:KSK)</a> Whistler project.</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> Yes, I took a position in Kiska last year. I always liked the  management team; I&#8217;ve known them for quite some time. It was probably  around the Prospectors &amp; Developers Association of Canada (PDAC)  conference last year where I met up with them again and looked at the  Whistler Project and thought that looks like a very interesting project.  One of the issues I had at the time was that <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/184" target="_blank">Rio Tinto (NYSE:RIO; ASX:RIO)</a> had a back-in right to the project.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Not anymore.</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> Not anymore. I talked to management several months later to schedule a  follow-up meeting. This was around the time that Rio Tinto looked like  it was about to walk away. As soon as I recognized that it would no  longer be involved in the play, I basically decided it was time to  become a shareholder.</p>
<p>Kiska has been drilling up the Whistler  Property. I think it&#8217;s got just over 5 million ounces of gold equivalent  (Moz. Au Eq.) there now. It&#8217;s moving on to drilling some of the other  peripheral targets where it has some discoveries. That drilling will  ultimately decide whether or not Whistler is economical. One thing to  remember is that a lot of these plays in Alaska are very remote, so  infrastructure is always something you have to consider. Barrick has  been looking at using a natural gas pipeline as part of the development  model for the Donlin Creek copper-gold project in Alaska.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> That&#8217;s a 50/50 JV with <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/16" target="_blank">NovaGold Resources Inc. (TSX:NG; NYSE.A:NG)</a>, right?</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> That&#8217;s correct. If Barrick builds that nat gas pipeline, basically, it  would go right by Kiska&#8217;s Whistler property. If that happens, Kiska  would get some pretty good infrastructure put into place, which would  really be a big win for the company—one of those things that&#8217;s outside  of Kiska&#8217;s hands—but, I&#8217;m keeping a close eye on what Barrick does.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Do you see Kiska as a takeover target, Charles?</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> At this point, I don&#8217;t expect it to be taken over. Should the natural  gas pipeline get the go-ahead, then I think it would definitely be a  takeover target.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Could you give us one more name before we let you go?</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> I hate to give you one. Can I give you a whole bunch? We haven&#8217;t really  talked about South America. I always like to give a basket of names  because they all have different risks. The companies in which we have  significant positions are, alphabetically, <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/3477" target="_blank">Belo Sun Mining Corp.  (TSX.V:BSX)</a>, <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/624" target="_blank">Guyana Goldfields, Inc. (TSX:GUY)</a>, <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/656" target="_blank">Magellan Minerals Ltd. (TSX.V:MNM)</a>, <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/164" target="_blank">Minera Andes Inc. (TSX:MAI; OTCBB:MNEAF)</a> and <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/3217" target="_blank">Torex Gold Resources Inc. (TSX:TXG)</a>.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Let&#8217;s start with Belo Sun with a Brazilian gold project where it&#8217;s been busy proving up ounces.</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> Yes, it&#8217;s got north of 2 Moz. One of the things that&#8217;s been a really  nice surprise this year is that as Belo&#8217;s done some infill drilling it&#8217;s  actually been able to increase the grade of the resource. What you  often see with a rising gold price is that companies use a lower-grade  resource. It&#8217;s nice to see that going the other way.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> You mentioned Guyana Goldfields. Do you see an opportunity for <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/2061" target="_blank">Sandspring Resources Ltd. (TSX.V:SSP)</a>, which also has a gold project in Guyana, to join forces with GUY?</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> I don&#8217;t think the two will join forces. You&#8217;ve got two very different  management teams. Guyana Goldfields looked at Sandspring&#8217;s properties  before Sandspring had even acquired some of them. It would probably make  sense to have all these properties under one umbrella, but I doubt it  will happen. At some point, I expect somebody will take out Guyana  Goldfields. One of the logical buyers would be a company like <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/682" target="_blank">IAMGOLD Corporation (TSX:IMG; NYSE:IAG)</a>,  which already has a presence there. But if Sandspring continues to  build ounces, and it&#8217;s had some great drilling success to the north  where it added quite a few ounces, then maybe it, too, could get  acquired at some future point.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> You mentioned Minera Andes, too. Tell us about that one.</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> Minera Andes is Rob McEwen&#8217;s company that has the JV with <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/547" target="_blank">Hochschild Mining (LSE:HOC)</a>.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> And Mr. McEwen is Minera&#8217;s largest shareholder.</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> Yes, McEwen&#8217;s the largest shareholder at 33%. Rob has done very well  for those people who&#8217;ve gone along with his investments. I think he&#8217;s  done a great job. Minera Andes has a couple other assets besides the  silver play. It also has the Los Azules copper-porphyry deposit, which  probably should be spun out. The other thing that gets me excited is  that Goldcorp recently bought Andean Resources for about $3.5 billion.  Rob McEwen has all the properties surrounding that area.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Yes, he&#8217;s hoping some of Andean&#8217;s high-grade mineralized structures run onto his claims. And there is some evidence of that.</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> The company will certainly get some. The question always is: Will it be  economic? Will the company find enough? And you can&#8217;t do that without  putting in the proper legwork.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> But Goldcorp&#8217;s never going to take out a Rob McEwen majority-owned company.</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> I&#8217;m going to bite my tongue on a comment right now.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Right. Well, what should we expect in terms of the near-term gold price?</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> I&#8217;m still extremely bullish on the gold price. As I said, I expect gold  to be at $2,000/oz. in the not-too-distant future. Otherwise, I will  have to shave all the hair off my head.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Back in  April 2008, you made a statement that gold would reach $2,000/oz. in  four years and if it didn&#8217;t you would shave your head. Are you still  standing by your statement and is the deadline April 16, 2012?</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> Yes. My view is really based on the fact that anywhere I look, I see  governments continuing to print money left, right and center. I see  deficits continuing to spiral out of control. I think governments are  helpless to do the right thing, which is cut spending, because if they  cut spending they get voted out of power. Without any other answers,  they ultimately decide to print some money. That&#8217;s easy enough. Nobody  complains about that.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Could gold eclipse $1,500/oz. in the near term?</p>
<p><strong>CO:</strong> I wouldn&#8217;t be at all surprised to see gold break out, make a new high and take out $1,500 in a very short period of time.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> We&#8217;ll look forward to that. Thank you for talking with us today, Charles.</p>
<p><em>Bringing more than 21 years of experience in the investment industry, Charles Oliver joined <a href="http://www.sprott.com/Splash.aspx" target="_blank">Sprott Asset Management</a> (SAM) in January 2008 as an investment strategist with a focus on the  Sprott Gold and Precious Minerals Fund. Prior to joining SAM, Charles  was at AGF Management Limited, where he led the team that was awarded  the Canadian Investment Awards Best Precious Metals Fund in 2004, 2006  and 2007 and was a finalist for the best Canadian Small-Cap Fund in  2007. At the 2007 Canadian Lipper Fund awards, the AGF Precious Metals  Fund was awarded the best 5-year return in the precious metals category,  and the AGF Canadian Resources Fund was awarded the best 10-year return  in the natural resources category.</em></span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Cross-border exchange mergers are in the news. See Indian exchanges must go regional and then global and Global mergers and Indian exchanges, by Jayanth Varma, who points us to LSE and TMX merge by Jeff Carter on Points and Figures. Also see Stock exchange mergers: the fight for global dominance in the Telegraph.</p> <p>An <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2011/03/02/what-is-gained-from-cross-border-exchange-mergers/">What is Gained From Cross-Border Exchange Mergers?</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cross-border exchange mergers are in the news. See <a href="http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/~jrvarma/blog/index.cgi/Y2011/FE-Asian-exchange-consolidation.html"><em>Indian exchanges must go regional and then global</em></a> and <a href="http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/~jrvarma/blog/index.cgi/Y2011/exchange-consolidation.html"><em>Global mergers and Indian exchanges</em></a>, by Jayanth Varma, who points us to <a href="http://pointsandfigures.com/2011/02/09/lse-and-tmx-merge/"><em>LSE and TMX merge</em></a> by Jeff Carter on <em>Points and Figures</em>. Also see <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/8320352/Stock-exchange-mergers-the-fight-for-global-dominance.html"><em>Stock exchange mergers: the fight for global dominance</em></a> in the <em>Telegraph</em>.</p>
<p>An article in the Economist, <a href="http://www.economist.com/node/18114593"><em>Back for more: Has the global exchange industry lost its marbles again?</em></a>, is skeptical about various stories that are being told about exchange mergers, but holds forth the possibility that there might be cost savings:</p>
<blockquote><p><em> </em></p>
<p><em>Joining forces does not in itself realise revenue gains or alter this<br />
decline. But it may make it possible to combine the technology and<br />
back-office platforms being used by different exchanges, cutting<br />
costs. Efficiency savings are the one element of the last round of<br />
consolidation that did arrive as promised.</em></p>
<p><em>Cost savings are being emphasised again now. The Deutsche Borse and<br />
NYSE-Euronext combination should yield annual savings of ?300m<br />
($412m), the two firms say, equivalent to about a fifth of the<br />
combined entity&#8217;s pre-tax profits, while the LSE-TMX deal should<br />
produce savings of about 7%.</em></p>
<p><em> </em></p></blockquote>
<p>In this article, I focus on the question: Is there a big opportunity for reducing cost through exchange mergers?</p>
<h3>Getting a sense of the magnitudes</h3>
<p>An exchange is an IT system that matches orders. The computational complexity of an exchange is all about taking in a lot of orders per second and computing a lot of trades per second. The output of the IT facility is purely measured by the number of orders that were produced. In the public domain, we see the number of trades, and not the number of orders. Hence, the number of trades is the best public domain source of the size of each exchange, from the viewpoint of cost.</p>
<p>To illustrate the magnitudes involved, last Friday, BSE got 34.1 million orders and did 1.94 million trades. This is an orders-to-trades ratio of 17.6:1 &#8212; for each trade that BSE produces, they have to have the IT capacity to process 17 orders.  The only way to get up to these kinds of values is by having a good deal of algorithmic trading.</p>
<p>The <em>revenue</em> per trade is, of course, very different across countries. In India, the average trade size on the equity spot market<br />
is $500 and the tariff for the exchange is hence tiny: NSE or BSE earn Rs.0.65 or $0.014 per trade. Using the above numbers, BSE&#8217;s earning Rs.0.04 or $0.000795 per <em>order</em> on average. These low low tariffs imply that the revenue, profit and valuation of an exchange in India is tiny when compared with what&#8217;s seen abroad. But on the question of <em>cost</em>, there is direct comparability: it costs as much to produce a billion trades in India as it does anywhere else.</p>
<p>From this perspective, let&#8217;s look at the biggest factories in the world that produce trades. This is <a href="http://www.world-exchanges.org/statistics/ytd-monthly">data from the World Federation of Exchanges</a>, for equity trades on the limit order book, in January 2011:</p>
<table border="0" cellpadding="5">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td>Rank</td>
<td>Exchange</td>
<td>&#8216;000 trades</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>1</td>
<td>NYSE Euronext</td>
<td>1,52,922</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>2</td>
<td>NSE</td>
<td>1,18,200</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>3</td>
<td>NASDAQ OMX</td>
<td>1,13,753</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>4</td>
<td>Shanghai SE</td>
<td>1,04,965</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>5</td>
<td>Korea Exchange</td>
<td>1,00,221</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>6</td>
<td>Shenzhen SE</td>
<td>76,268</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>7</td>
<td>BSE</td>
<td>35,157</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>8</td>
<td>Tokyo SE</td>
<td>27,557</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>9</td>
<td>Taiwan SE</td>
<td>20,313</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>10</td>
<td>London SE</td>
<td>19,132</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<h3>Saving money through unification of data centres?</h3>
<p>I do believe that in this business, there are economies of scale. To build a factory that produces twice the trades costs less<br />
than twice the money.</p>
<p>Does this mean that exchange mergers can create value? Not necessarily.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take one plausible merger from the above. The London SE is a small exchange: they did 19.1 million trades in January. The BSE did 35.1 million trades.</p>
<p>Can one save money by producing 55 million trades in a single data centre? Yes.</p>
<p>Will a BSE+LSE merged entity drop down to one data centre? Of course not! The problem is the speed of light. Today, the<br />
conversations between securities firms and exchanges are reckoned in milliseconds. And in one millisecond, light only travels 300 km. So even without reckoning for switching overheads (which are huge!) it is not feasible to unify data centres apart from local mergers such as CME and CBOT.</p>
<p>Since light moves at a glacial pace, it is simply not feasible to beam orders from London to a data centre in Bombay. So even if BSE<br />
merged with London SE, there would be two data centres. This limits the cost saving. Until we find a way to speed up light, there is going to be no data centre consolidation in this business, other than within small geographical areas (e.g. within Chicago or within New York).</p>
<h3>Saving money on software development?</h3>
<p>Okay, let&#8217;s look further. Could there be cost saving by building one software system and deploying it twice?  We&#8217;d still spend money to<br />
run two data centres, but we&#8217;d have only one expense of building software. Could this work?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s much harder than it sounds. It is not often that one gets to fully transplant an exchange software system in a new location: all<br />
too often, the systems have to be significantly different. Regulatory differences, local preferences, history, what users prefer and are<br />
used to: all these shape immense diversity in exchange systems. There can actually be <em>dis</em>economies of scale, with engineering and<br />
political problems of handling multiple versions.</p>
<p>Another key problem lies in the sizing of the software system. An exchange system that works for BSE will generally involve a different set of engineering tradeoffs when compared with the LSE setting. So ground-up implementations could be more efficient. By this logic, there may be a useful role for cooperation between similar-sized exchanges (e.g. NSE and Shanghai), but not across divergent sizes which are more than 2x apart.</p>
<p>When decision makers think `a system&#8217; can be readily transported across highly diverse order intensities, without regard for the<br />
inefficiencies introduced in this process, I think this has something to do with the lack of engineering backgrounds among these decision makers. On a related note, there isn&#8217;t much of a role for exchange software as a software <em>product</em>, other than in the zone of tiny exchanges where an android phone will suffice for order matching. By the time you get to anything in the top 20 exchanges of the world, an efficient implementation will involve large amounts of ground-up development.</p>
<h3>A skeptical perspective</h3>
<p>NYSE merged with Euronext. Did we see cost reductions? A lot was said about cost reduction at the time of the merger, but I haven&#8217;t<br />
particularly seen evidence of this filtering out post-merger.</p>
<p>ASX-SGX: Will they drop down to one data centre? Of course not. Will they unify systems? What will be the cost of system<br />
unification? Does it make any sense to unify systems? It helps that both are similar-sized small exchanges, but the institutional settings are highly different.</p>
<p>NSE and NASDAQ produce a similar number of equity spot trades. In the latest year, <a href="http://www.business-beacon.com/kommon/bin/sr.php?kall=wcoshv&amp;repnum=2591&amp;cocode=155676">NSE spends</a> roughly $150 million a year doing this, while <a href="http://ir.nasdaq.com/annuals.cfm">NASDAQ spent $850 million</a>. (NSE produces derivatives trades also, and the NSE number includes the cost of the clearing corporation, so the cost-per-trade edge at NSE is probably of the order of 10x when compared with NASDAQ). The two exchanges are similar in size in terms of the trades per second. Yet, this is not an easy merger opportunity. There will certainly be no data centre<br />
unification. NSE&#8217;s knowledge can be used to run the NASDAQ data centre more cheaply, but complex organisational dynamics would have to be navigated in achieving the transition, and this could take decades to pull off. It is hard to get management teams that are<br />
able to play for such long-term gains.</p>
<p>Also see <a href="http://www.livemint.com/2011/02/21214120/Are-exchange-mergers-always-go.html?h=D"><em>Are exchange mergers always good?</em></a> by Mobis Philipose in <em>Mint</em>.</p>
<p>There is one kind of exchange merger which I have become increasingly skeptical about: one in which a parent foists computer<br />
systems upon the recipient. I have started worrying that this is a bit of a con, a method to generate revenues from system sales under the garb of partnership or strategic alliances. This is done to some extent by firms that are primarily in the business of selling software and not in the business of running exchanges. Or, to the extent that high-cost exchanges are able to do this, the systems/software revenues are able to mask the deeper problem of a high cost structure.</p>
<p>I have watched the grand global deal-making between exchanges for a long time. In my reckoning, most of it has been a waste of time and money. As one specific example, in my observation in India, some foreign investments into Indian exchanges has been irrelevant, others have directly done damage. None has as yet helped improve product offerings or cost efficiency.</p>
<p>One contract that comes to my mind as one that really worked was Mutual Offset (MOS) between CME and SIMEX, which was done way back in 1984. This was one deal that really mattered and was a good idea. But it was useful in the age before capital account openness &#8211; such connections are less important today when capital flows freely anyway. And, remember that it was a mere contract, it involved no complications of ownership and management. So I do think there will be value if the Nifty futures on SGX, CME and NSE are all unified through a mutual offset system: but this does not require anything more complex than signing a contract.</p>
<p>Jayanth Varma <a href="http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/~jrvarma/blog/index.cgi/Y2011/exchange-consolidation.html">says</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em><br />
It is tragic that at this point of great opportunities and strategic challenges, the energies of Indian exchanges and their regulators are entirely consumed by the debate about whether exchanges should be regulated like public utilities<br />
</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I disagree. The global exchange M&amp;A story seems to be overrated, apart from the extent to which systems like MOS which can<br />
alleviate home bias (and only require contracts). There isn&#8217;t much to gain there. On the other hand, the problem of sound regulation and supervision of exchanges in India is a GDP-scale issue. Indian experience and evidence does not support a complacent approach that the regulation and supervision will work out.</p>
<h3>Acknowledgements</h3>
<p>My thinking on this was improved through conversations with Ravi Apte and Ashish Chauhan.</p>
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		<dc:creator>The Gold Report</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p> Gold in the Carolinas? &#8220;Absolutely,&#8221; says Jefferson Financial President and CEO Brien Lundin, who also publishes the Gold Newsletter. It&#8217;s just one region where historic discoveries, ignored when gold prices were low, are now being re-examined with modern exploration techniques. The results, he says, are promising. Learn more about his take on the <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2011/02/15/brien-lundin-look-to-history-to-profit-from-gold/">Brien Lundin: Look to History to Profit from Gold</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span><img src="http://www.theaureport.com/images/LundinSmall.jpeg" alt="" align="left" /> <em>Gold in the Carolinas? &#8220;Absolutely,&#8221; says Jefferson Financial President and CEO Brien Lundin, who also publishes the </em><a href="http://www.goldnewsletter.com/" target="_blank">Gold Newsletter</a>. <em>It&#8217;s  just one region where historic discoveries, ignored when gold prices  were low, are now being re-examined with modern exploration techniques.  The results, he says, are promising. Learn more about his take on the  economy, the seasonal effect on gold prices and the &#8220;frothy&#8221; metals  market in this exclusive interview with </em>The Gold Report.</p>
<p><strong><em>The Gold Report: </em></strong>When we last talked in <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/na/7302" target="_blank">September</a>, you said there were &#8220;very good arguments for significantly higher gold prices.&#8221; Have those arguments changed? And, if so, how?</p>
<p><strong>Brien Lundin: </strong>They  have changed a bit. Back then, the investing environment was tough  because it was so uncertain. There weren&#8217;t any clear trends. We didn&#8217;t  know if the economic recovery was really taking hold.</p>
<p>At this  point, we&#8217;ve firmly established that the economy is in a fairly steady  uptrend. This is good for gold in the long term, though I believe it&#8217;s a  bit bearish for gold in the short term. As the economy rebounds over  the long term, we&#8217;ll see a lot of pent-up monetary pressure unleashed.  For example, the Federal Reserve is now holding about $1 trillion in  excess bank reserves. Right now, that doesn&#8217;t count as money; but once  the banks begin lending and those reserves are turned into loans, they  instantly become currency and have a multiplier effect on the economy.  We&#8217;ll see a resurgence in monetary inflation as the economy rebounds and  gets into a higher, more stable rate of growth.</p>
<p>Also, as the  economy strengthens, we&#8217;ll see more intense use of metals and  commodities. There will be a wealth effect, which will be good for gold  and for the rest of the metals complex, as well. But until we get there,  it&#8217;s a bit negative for gold because investors will perceive strength  in the economy as negative for gold, anticipating that the Federal  Reserve will begin to hike interest rates.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> In the December/January issue of <em>Gold Newsletter, </em>you  said that at $1,380/oz. there was $100–$200 of pure speculation in the  gold price. How much pure speculation would there be at $1,300?</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> Not much. Frankly, I think the decline from $1,420–$1,320/oz. pretty  much wiped out a lot of the speculative excess. It blew away a lot of  the froth, and we&#8217;ve essentially run out of sellers. Just yesterday I  issued an alert saying that gold appeared to be bottoming, but that  soon—for some reason yet to be discovered—it would be ready for a  rebound. I was thinking in terms of days, not necessarily hours. Come to  find out, today [February 3] gold is up $20. I&#8217;ve likened the market,  as it stands now, to a stack of dried tinder just looking for a flame.  The gold market is looking for a fundamental spark to carry it higher.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> But you see a lot of fundamental support above $1,300/oz.</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> Absolutely. I think we have strong resistance in the $1,320/oz. area.  That&#8217;s been established by previous corrections. I doubt there&#8217;s more  than another $50 of downside in gold from these levels. There really  isn&#8217;t much speculative fervor left in the market and not many sellers  either.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> How cautious should investors be about the emerging rebound in the U.S.?</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> We&#8217;ve learned that anything can happen. The economic rebound, as it  stands now, is not rock solid. It&#8217;s vulnerable to a number of exogenous  shocks, globally and internally. But I don&#8217;t think we have the potential  for a credit crunch like the one we saw in 2008. The Fed has  demonstrated to the markets that it won&#8217;t allow that. If anything  resembling such a situation occurs again, I think the resulting flow of  money from the Fed, and the Fed&#8217;s track record from the last go-around,  would lead to tremendous investment in gold.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Of all the ways the economy could go from here, what is the best- and worst-case scenario for gold?</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> The best case for gold would be to muddle along with a bit of economic  bad news here and there. That would signal the Fed&#8217;s intention to keep  loose monetary reins on the economy and continue flooding it with more  liquidity. Frankly, I think we probably won&#8217;t see that.</p>
<p>The  worst case for gold over the short term would be major evidence of  strong economic growth and a decline in U.S. unemployment. The Fed is  watching the unemployment rate like a hawk. That will be the primary  determinate of whether it decides to curtail quantitative easing 2 (QE2)  and whether it decides to implement a third dose.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Were you in favor of the tax-cut measures invoked at the end of 2010?</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> Absolutely. That was necessary for any prospect of an economic rebound.  The tax cuts are one of the primary drivers of the strength we are  seeing right now. We need these relatively lower tax rates to see some  growth in the U.S. Just as importantly, it was necessary to get that  question resolved and out of the way. The market hates uncertainty.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> In the February issue of <em>Gold Newsletter </em>you discuss how the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollinger_Bands" target="_blank">Bollinger Bands</a> for gold often predict movements in the gold price. Briefly explain that concept to our readers, please.</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> I&#8217;m not much of a technical analyst, but every now and then I find  things that seem to be fairly compelling. This is one of them. Bollinger  Bands are the lines that are drawn by, say, one standard deviation  above and below a certain moving average. With my good friend Ron Griess  at thechartstore.com, I have been tracking this technical indicator for  some time. We noticed that when the Bollinger Bands for a moving  average for gold start to pinch or tighten, it has historically signaled  an impending price breakout. It works in other markets, as well.</p>
<p>In  the February newsletter, we featured a 50-day moving average for gold  and the associated Bollinger Bands, which began to pinch once again.  There are a lot of ways to interpret this, but to me it signals that the  market is figuratively coiling like a spring. When this happens,  typically, there is a price breakout in one direction or the other. As  in any consolidation pattern, that breakout is usually in the direction  of the major long-term trend. With gold, especially over the last 10  years, that trend has been up.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> So, when these bands contract, it signals that there could be a price breakout either to the upside or downside.</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> Correct.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> You also suggest there is evidence—from both a contrarian and a  seasonal gold demand perspective—that gold should break to the upside.  Can you talk about those two arguments?</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> That&#8217;s a good  way to put it. From a contrarian standpoint, the sentiment in the  market has fallen severely. Some of the indicators, such as the Hulbert  Gold Newsletter Sentiment Index (HGNSI), had dropped considerably  recently while gold was still trading at fairly high historical levels.  The market was primed, from a contrarian perspective, to rise. It wasn&#8217;t  overbought by any means; if anything, it was oversold. From a sentiment  perspective, that was a positive indicator for gold.</p>
<p>From a  seasonal standpoint, we&#8217;re in the midst of the Chinese Lunar New Year  celebration as we talk, which historically is a period of strong demand  for gold in Asia. We&#8217;re also entering the Indian wedding season.  Typically, springtime is a very positive period for physical gold  demand, and that&#8217;s usually reflected in the price.</p>
<p>Ron Griess  and I were discussing this the other day. He compiled the most  comprehensive study of seasonality in gold prices that I&#8217;ve ever seen,  and turned up some surprises. Looking at the average one-month  percentage rise or fall in the gold price from 1968–2010, we see that  January and February are strong months, as are April and May. I was  surprised to see that March is typically a down month for gold. Summer  is slow, as we know, and it perks up in August. The best month of the  year, on average, has actually been September.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Let&#8217;s  look now at some companies that may be able to capitalize on this  potential movement upward. This month you recommended a junior with a  gold play in North Carolina. Could you share that pick with our readers?</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> I&#8217;ve recommended companies all over the world, but  never one in the Carolinas. I was really unfamiliar with the area from a  geological standpoint; but when I looked into it, I discovered a  historic gold-mining district going back to the early 1800s. The problem  has been fractured land ownership. There aren&#8217;t huge slabs of land  available for the taking. It takes a lot of legwork and luck to assemble  property positions, and now some companies have done this. <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/462" target="_blank">Romarco Minerals Inc. (TSX.V:R)</a> has done it in recent years, and made a 4.5 million-ounce (Moz.) discovery there.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> With the Haile Gold Deposit in South Carolina, correct?</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> Right. The company that I just recommended, <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/2278" target="_blank">Revolution Resources Corp. (TSX:RV)</a>,  assembled a patchwork of individual land ownership into a leasehold  that&#8217;s fairly extensive and covers some historic discoveries. Now it&#8217;s  going back to confirm those discoveries with modern exploration methods.  The company is getting good news—much better results than it expected.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> The property had been examined by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noranda_%28mining_company%29" target="_blank">Noranda Inc.</a> before, right?</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> Yes, from 1989–1992. Noranda did about 3,000 meters of drilling and 23  drill holes. It got good results, but gold prices were low at the  time—and falling. The company stopped work and it lay fallow until  Revolution came in.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> What makes this project—Champion Hills—worthy of a Brien Lundin recommendation?</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> To earn my recommendation you have to have a couple of things: 1) A  fairly low valuation starting out; and 2) A very large, world-class  target. Revolution has both. The management team is also critical. I&#8217;m  very bullish on this management team; it includes Michael Williams, who  founded Underworld and started the whole Yukon gold rush. It also  includes Rob McLeod. To my mind, there&#8217;s not a smarter geologist out  there.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> And Aaron Keay, who has the pull on the street to get the financing together.</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> He really does. Aaron arranged $9 million in financing for Revolution,  and it is well financed to explore the project for a couple of years.  It&#8217;s gotten wonderful drill results. The trend right now is about 3 km.,  and they&#8217;re just scratching the surface of the project&#8217;s potential. I  see this project as having world-class potential, perhaps even rivaling  what Romarco uncovered.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> What sort of news should we look for from Revolution in 2011?</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> The best sort of news for a mining stock speculator is drill results.  The company&#8217;s going to deliver a good bit of that to the market. Its  next phase of exploration will encompass another 5,000m of drilling and  another 22 drill holes. You&#8217;re going to get a steady diet of drill  results—it&#8217;s a project that can operate 12 months a year. Nothing is  going to slow this company down.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Let&#8217;s continue talking about new names involved in old plays or new districts. What names fit those criteria?</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> Right now, I&#8217;m very positive on <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/2138" target="_blank">Treasury Metals Inc. (TSX:TML)</a>.  The company&#8217;s got a bit over 1 Moz. gold at its Goliath Gold Project in  Ontario. It&#8217;s going back to a previous discovery with new geological  ideas and new funding. These are projects that weren&#8217;t working back when  gold prices were much lower. Now Treasury is applying more advanced  methods of exploration and development in a new environment for gold  prices. It&#8217;s taken a fairly high-grade project, added in lower-grade  surface resources and come up with a gold resource that&#8217;s over 1 Moz. at  this point. The company is very well funded and has a great management  team.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s been particularly interesting to me is that the  play is in the Kenora Gold District, which hasn&#8217;t been as widely  followed or developed as others in Ontario and in Canada at large. There  are more than 20 companies and individual groups exploring in the  Kenora area. Treasury has a central location, it will have central  facilities and it has the largest resource. That makes it the natural  choice to consolidate the entire district—and that&#8217;s actually in its  business plan.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> You talked about Treasury&#8217;s  management, which has seen some changes. Scott Jobin-Bevans was  president and CEO. The company hired Martin Walters, who&#8217;s got a pretty  good reputation, and brought in another vice president of exploration.  What do you know about those changes?</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> I&#8217;ve been a big  supporter of Scott. I know him very well and he&#8217;s taken the company a  good ways. I think that the exploration and management teams are very  impressive, and I think the financial and investment teams behind the  company are just as impressive. Some very powerful interests in the  mining industry are behind this company—people who can see the big  picture and know how to go after large goals. As I&#8217;ve said, the  consolidation of that district is a big goal and I think Treasury has  the expertise and the support to reach it.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> One of those names is Sheldon Inwentash at <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/1682" target="_blank">Pinetree Capital Ltd. (TSX:PNP)</a>.</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> Yes and Marc Henderson is very big behind the company, as well.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> What should we look for from Treasury this year?</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> We&#8217;re looking for drill results, plus some refinement to the  preliminary economic analysis (PEA). The original economic report was  very conservative, so there&#8217;s tremendous scope to improve those numbers.  Of course, the gold price will go a long way toward improving the  economics of this and every other gold project. I think the market is  starting to recognize this as a project that is going into production a  bit quicker than previously assumed.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Could we see a revised resource estimate by year-end?</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> It&#8217;s certainly possible, given that one goal of the current drill  program is to upgrade the resources. The company&#8217;s trying to not only  expand the global resource, but also upgrade its very sizeable inferred  resources. That demonstrates to the market how serious Treasury is about  progressing toward production.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> What other companies are you bullish on heading into 2011?</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> We&#8217;re fairly confident about strong economic growth in Asia and robust  demand for commodities. Copper has been a big star recently.</p>
<p>Some of our copper plays have done spectacularly well, one of them being <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/1105" target="_blank">Hana Mining Ltd. (TSX.V:HMG)</a>.  It recently reached a high of around $5.50/share, then went back into  the low $4 range; now, it&#8217;s making an assault on its previous highs. We  were, I think, the only newsletter to follow Hana Mining and recommend  it. Our readers had a 15-fold gain in that recommendation.</p>
<p>Now another company has been spun out of Hana, called <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/3438" target="_blank">New Hana Copper Mining Ltd.  (TSX.V:HML)</a>.  New Hana&#8217;s property is also in Botswana, adjoining Hana&#8217;s Ghanzi  property. The geology and geophysics are identical. It&#8217;s still early,  but a number of people are betting that this company will end up having a  deposit of similar size to Hana Mining&#8217;s Ghanzi deposit, which is an  enormous, world-class copper and silver deposit. New Hana is actually a  bit highly priced and a bit overvalued, in my view, for what it has. The  company&#8217;s trading around $1/share right now, but I anticipate that the  release of a private placement that was done in early December 2010 may  change things. In early April, the stock will become free trading. I see  that as a potential entry point.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Did some of the management team come over from Hana to New Hana?</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> Hana Mining President Marek Kreczmer is steering the ship at New Hana,  as well. That&#8217;s an example of one of the things I recommend companies  do: When you have a major project that is the linchpin for all the  market value, you might as well take the other projects that aren&#8217;t  getting as much value and spin them out into other publicly traded  vehicles. That gives shareholders another bang for their buck.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> It&#8217;s certainly a pretty frothy market for copper, which recently hit $10,000/ton.</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> Copper is trading at record levels. Although I&#8217;m very positive on  copper prices for the long term, I am concerned about some  overexuberance in the market right now.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> So, temper that enthusiasm and wait on New Hana in April.</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> Right. One of the early stage companies I like is <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/2733" target="_blank">Tintina Gold Resources (TSX.V:TAU)</a>.  It has a very exciting copper project in Montana called the Sheep Creek  Copper Property. This is another property that had historic results  that it&#8217;s going back to confirm. The company is drilling off pods of  mineralization that are high grade, shallow and fairly small in terms of  tonnage—but also fairly large in pounds of copper, thanks to the high  grades. The interesting thing is that, if they are developed, they&#8217;ll be  high-grade underground copper mines. All the economics and the grades  look very conducive to development. Tintina is going to advance toward  development very rapidly. I don&#8217;t think the market has really  appreciated the company&#8217;s potential at this stage.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Is there gold in that mineralization, or is it strictly copper at Sheep Creek?</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> It&#8217;s really a copper/cobalt project with some silver credits that could  be sold off in advance to help fund the project&#8217;s development. But the  company also has some other interesting gold and base metals projects,  which it&#8217;s in the process of spinning out into a separate company or  companies. In other words, this is another instance where investors may  again have a chance to get a couple of different plays—or different  lottery tickets, if you will—out of one stock investment.</p>
<p>The chairman of Tintina Gold is Rick Van Nieuwenhuyse. He&#8217;s also the chairman and CEO of <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/16" target="_blank">NovaGold Resources Inc. (TSX:NG; NYSE.A:NG)</a>. As you can imagine, the company has some very strong shareholders.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Rick has done a great job of developing a world-class gold deposit at  Donlin Creek in Alaska, but Montana isn&#8217;t very friendly to gold mining.  How friendly is it to copper mining?</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> I&#8217;d be worried  about that, too, if we were talking about the kind of project that would  scar the landscape. But you&#8217;re dealing with private landowners here.  You&#8217;re dealing with a project that would be an underground, high-grade  mine with little surface disturbance. I don&#8217;t anticipate it being a  problem.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Good to know. Can you give us one more name before we say goodbye?</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> I like <a href="http://www.theaureport.com/pub/co/2405" target="_blank">Gold Standard Ventures Corp. (TSX.V:GV; OTCQX:GDVXF)</a>,  which has the Railroad Project in Nevada just south of the Rain Mine  Project. It tied up a fairly large property position with some historic  resources in the Rain District and just to the south. Vice President of  Exploration Dave Mathewson was a former head of exploration for Newmont  in Nevada. He developed the Rain model and discovered several deposits  in the Rain District. Gold Standard&#8217;s management was able to secure its  property position through some creative negotiation and, frankly, some  good luck. Then they brought in Mathewson to apply his expertise.</p>
<p>Mathewson  was looking for the right rock packages in the area, and the company  hit those in its first drill holes this year. It didn&#8217;t get results that  really pleased the market; they were fairly low grade. But the fact  that it was able to hit gold intersections of, say, sub-1 g/t or around 1  g/t, over significant intersections in the right rock packages was a  resounding technical success.</p>
<p>Right now, Gold Standard is  vectoring in its drilling, closing into the projected higher-grade  mineralization. It&#8217;s getting stronger and stronger results. This is a  sleeper stock because the market doesn&#8217;t appreciate its technical  success. There&#8217;s a very good chance that Gold Standard could uncover one  of those really large-scale, world-class Nevada gold deposits that the  market&#8217;s always looking for.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Given the number of  other players in that market, is there a chance that Gold Standard could  be taken over if it finds something significant?</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> Oh,  absolutely. Although Gold Standard would never say this, in my mind, if  it made a discovery on the order of the Rain Deposit, there&#8217;s little  chance it would be the company to develop the deposit.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Could you leave us with some thoughts on what&#8217;s happening in the gold  market, and what people should expect over the next three to five  months?</p>
<p><strong>BL:</strong> I think that 2011 is likely to shape up as a  very typical year for gold. We&#8217;re quite likely to see early seasonal  strength this spring, but this will probably be another &#8220;Sell in May, Go  Away&#8221; year. Later this year, as we begin to see more positive economic  data in the U.S., that news will weigh heavily on gold. We&#8217;ll probably  have a decline going into June and July, but I think we&#8217;ll see signs of  growing price inflation ahead of rising interest rates by the fall.  Essentially, I think it&#8217;s a case of play the market in the spring, get  ready for a soft patch in the early to mid-summer and make sure you&#8217;re  positioned in early August for what should be a very profitable fall.</p>
<p><strong>TGR:</strong> Excellent, Brien. Thank you for your time.</p>
<p><em>With  a career spanning three decades in the investment markets, Brien Lundin  serves as president and CEO of Jefferson Financial, a highly regarded  publisher of market analyses and producer of investment-oriented events.  Under the Jefferson Financial umbrella, Brien publishes and edits </em><a href="http://www.goldnewsletter.com/" target="_blank">Gold Newsletter</a>,<em> a cornerstone of precious metals advisories since 1971; he digs into  not only small caps of every type but also macroeconomics and  geopolitical issues that ultimately affect every resource investor.  Brien also hosts the <a href="http://www.neworleansconference.com/redirect.php?page=index.html&amp;source_code=TheGoldReport" target="_blank">New Orleans Investment Conference</a>,  the oldest and most-respected investment event of its kind that, each  year, gathers together the giants of investing, economics and  geopolitics. </em></span></p>
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