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		<title>Book Review: Pop Internationalism by Paul Krugman</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 19:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Grey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I give up.</p> <p>I have tried reading Krugman for several years but I just can’t do it.  I picked up Return of Depression Economics when I was a junior in high school, but I couldn’t finish it.  I use to subscribe to his blog, but I simply found him impossible to read on a <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2011/09/09/book-review-pop-internationalism-by-paul-krugman/">Book Review: Pop Internationalism by Paul Krugman</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I give up.</p>
<p>I have tried reading Krugman for several years but I just can’t do it.  I picked up Return of Depression Economics when I was a junior in high school, but I couldn’t finish it.  I use to subscribe to his blog, but I simply found him impossible to read on a daily basis.  I couldn’t even finish Pop Internationalism.</p>
<p>The biggest problem I have with Krugman is that he gets too caught up in his own perceived brilliance, and he has a tendency to become quite smug and condescending.  This usually becomes a problem because he isn’t often right, so reading him just makes me want to find him and then punch him dead in the face.  Arrogance is only amusing when you’re right.</p>
<p>Anyhow, Pop Internationalism isn’t all bad; Krugman manages to make a couple of good points.  They’re mostly contained in the first four chapters, so if you do eventually feel like reading this book, you needn’t bother reading beyond chapter five.</p>
<p>In the first place, Krugman is correct in noting that countries are not corporations, nor are they comparable to corporations, at least in terms of competitiveness.  The idea that the United States “competes” with Japan (or Germany or Britain or etc.) is a rather strange notion, and a fallacious one to boot.   Trade is not necessarily win-lose, which, come to think of it, sounds quite strange coming from Krugman.  As such, trading with Japan isn’t an inherently destructive behavior.  However, it is possible that trade can have negative consequences.  It should simply be noted that trade is neither inherently good nor inherently bad.  It can be either.</p>
<p>In the second place, Krugman correctly notes that, accepting the concept of competitiveness for sake of argument, a nation’s ability to compete in the global market is more closely tied to domestic production policy instead of foreign trade policy.  Stated more clearly, taxes and regulations play a larger role in international competitiveness than do tariffs and trade agreements.  As such, the proper policy prescription for encouraging competitiveness in the global marketplace is deregulation and corporate tax cuts.</p>
<p>Overall, Pop Internationalism starts with a bit of a bang, then dissolves into self-congratulatory mental masturbation.  The first couple of chapters are thoughtful and thought-provoking, but everything after that is nauseatingly narcissistic.  Read at your own peril.</p></div>
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		<title>Pop Quiz</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Grey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Q: Who said this: <p>Second, the idea that U.S. economic difficulties hinge crucially on our failures in international economic competition somewhat paradoxically makes those difficulties seem easier to solve. The productivity of the average American worker is determined by a complex array of factors, most of them unreachable by any likely government policy. So <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2011/08/25/pop-quiz/">Pop Quiz</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Q: Who said this:</div>
<blockquote><p>Second, the idea that U.S. economic difficulties hinge crucially on our failures in international economic competition somewhat paradoxically makes those difficulties seem easier to solve.<span> </span>The productivity of the average American worker is determined by a complex array of factors, most of them unreachable by any likely government policy.<span> </span><strong><em>So if you accept the reality that our “competitive” problem is really a domestic productivity problem pure and simple</em></strong>, you are unlikely to be optimistic about any dramatic turnaround.<span> </span>But if you can convince yourself that the problem is really one of failures in international competition—that imports are pushing workers out of high-wage jobs, or subsidized foreign competition is driving the United States out of the high value-added sectors—then the answers to economic malaise may seem to you to involve simple things like subsidizing high technology and being tough on Japan.<span> </span>[Emphasis added.]</p></blockquote>
<p>A:  Paul Krugman (Pop Internationalism p. 16 [1996], The MIT Press, Cambridge).</p>
<p>In spite of his remarkable daily stupidity, Krugman actually correctly recognizes the problem of American competitiveness in international trade.  What hampers America is not foreign trade, but domestic productivity.  And one of the biggest hindrances to domestic productivity is government, both at the state and municipal level, and particularly at the federal level.  Thus, if one wants to know why Americans are losing manufacturing jobs, one need only look at domestic policy.  The federal government has increasingly hamstrung manufacturing jobs over the past several decades.</p>
<div>Furthermore, instead of allowing consumers to feel the pain that domestic production policy would naturally incur, the federal government instead decided to promote increased foreign trade (under, it should be noted, the auspices of so-called “free” trade).  This policy has then had the effect of subsidizing foreign production at the expense of domestic production because foreign manufacturers do not have to face the massive regulatory costs that domestic manufacturers face, giving foreign manufacturers a leg up on their competition.</p>
<p>As I have undoubtedly noted before, there are only two correct positions for a domestic government that presumably claims to represent the people over which it governs.  Either the government can highly regulate domestic business and place tariffs on imports that approximate the costs faced by domestic producers or the government can reduce the burden of regulation on domestic business in conjunction with the decreased cost of importing.  It is, however, quite foolish to do what the U.S. government is doing now:  highly regulate domestic business while decreasing the cost of importing.  Either a high degree of regulation is desirable or it is not.  If it is, whatever regulations that exist should be applied to every person and corporation that wishes to do business in America.  If it is not, the domestic market should be deregulated posthaste.  There is no excuse for the current state of affairs.</p></div>
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		<title>Speaking of Chutzpah…</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Grey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It takes a lot of it to write something this asinine: <p>Let’s start with S.&#38; P.’s lack of credibility. If there’s a single word that best describes the rating agency’s decision to downgrade America, it’s chutzpah — traditionally defined by the example of the young man who kills his parents, then pleads for mercy <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2011/08/15/speaking-of-chutzpah%e2%80%a6/">Speaking of Chutzpah…</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>It takes a lot of it to write <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/08/opinion/credibility-chutzpah-and-debt.html?_r=1&amp;ref=opinion">something this asinine</a>:</div>
<blockquote><p>Let’s start with S.&amp; P.’s lack of credibility. If there’s a single word that best describes the rating agency’s decision to downgrade America, it’s chutzpah — traditionally defined by the example of the young man who kills his parents, then pleads for mercy because he’s an orphan.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>America’s large budget deficit is, after all, primarily the result of the economic slump that followed the 2008 financial crisis. And S.&amp; P., along with its sister rating agencies, played a major role in causing that crisis, by giving AAA ratings to mortgage-backed assets that have since turned into toxic waste.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Nor did the bad judgment stop there. Notoriously, S.&amp; P. gave Lehman Brothers, whose collapse triggered a global panic, an A rating right up to the month of its demise. And how did the rating agency react after this A-rated firm went bankrupt? By issuing a report denying that it had done anything wrong.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>So these people are now pronouncing on the creditworthiness of the United States of America?</p></blockquote>
<div>I’m actually in agreement with The Krugster on the trustworthiness of S.&amp;P.’s credit ratings.<span> </span>However, you have to be either extremely wedded to an utterly foolish ideology or completely retarded to think S.&amp;P.’s tendency to <em>overrate</em> the creditworthiness of organizations in general is somehow evidence that S.&amp;P. is now <em>underrating</em> the U.S. Treasury’s ability to repay its debt.<span> </span>It is generally foolish to extrapolate a trend from one piece of data, as The Krugster does here; it is a heretofore unknown level of complete stupidity, however, to extrapolate a trend that goes in the opposite direction of the one piece of data you happen to have.<span> </span>And yet, that’s exactly what Krugman did.<span> </span>The <em>New York Times</em> needs to fire this clown.</div>
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		<title>Pigs and Power</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan McLaughlin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Many decades ago, George Orwell wrote a book called Animal Farm. It used a farm as a metaphor for society and depicted the transformation of a productive enterprise into a totalitarian regime. The progress toward dictatorship took small steps that were held to be in the best interests of “the people.” Equality of conditions <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2009/12/21/pigs-and-power/">Pigs and Power</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many decades ago, George Orwell wrote a book called Animal Farm. It used a farm as a metaphor for society and depicted the transformation of a productive enterprise into a totalitarian regime. The progress toward dictatorship took small steps that were held to be in the best interests of “the people.” Equality of conditions was affirmed as the highest ideal. The redistribution of wealth from the productive led to universal dependency and slavery, which are the ultimate end results of socialism.</p>
<p>There is no universal definition of socialism, so it may be helpful to state mine here. It is the idea that individual rights are subordinate to the good of society, as determined by those in power. The varieties of socialism only diverge over the degree of suppression of which particular rights.</p>
<p>The key phrase from the book, one that resonates so clearly today, is “All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.” When it is all said and done, equality is only for the peons, the lesser folk, the non-intellectual, non-wealthy proletariat. The political leaders, the elite, represented in the book by the pigs, are above equality. They proclaim that they need their wealth and power to do what is good for society. As Dr. Evil of Austin Powers fame would mockingly say, “Riiiiiiiiight.” The most influential promoters of socialist ideals are fabulously wealthy. They have vast opportunities to put their money where their collective mouths are. Yet, those selfless acts of mercy are strangely absent.</p>
<p>Paul Krugman, a high profile New York Times columnist, is a so-called economist who, in spite of being an economics professor, actually rejects all economic principles in favor of demagoguery and ideology.  Last year he was awarded the Nobel Prize in Economics by the unabashedly socialist central bank of the socialist, egalitarian country of Sweden.  One of his hot topics is income inequality and he decries the large salaries of corporate executives, yet he has no conscientious objection to accepting $50,000 for a speaking engagement or a million dollar Nobel award.  With his salary, consulting, speaking and sales of best selling books, he earns many multiples of the average income.  He does not, however, volunteer to donate all of his excess to those who are under the average. Might that call into question his egalitarian motives?</p>
<p>George Soros is a multi-billionaire, who earned his wealth from free market capitalism. He has become a leading voice in international socialism and is putting together a panel of socialist economists to develop a “new economics.” Included on the panel is Joseph Stiglitz, another wealthy Nobel Prize winner in economics. He also happens to be on an advisory board to the Socialist International, called the Commission on Global Financial issues. Soros has committed $50 million to establish the Institute for New Economic Thinking. Rather than donating his billions to the poor all over the world, he instead, finds it appropriate to use his incredible influence to promote redistribution schemes for you and me and anyone not lucky enough to be one of the exalted elite.</p>
<p>Redistributionist President Obama and his wife Michelle both had high paying jobs before the presidency, and made millions on best selling books. Did they redistribute their own excess to the less fortunate? No, they lived instead like wealthy capitalists in their $1.6 million dollar home. At one time, he worked with the radical socialist ACORN organization, learning the Saul Alinsky method of community organizing, igniting division and agitation and fanning the flames of victim mentality.  As president, he has a stable full of wealthy socialists and international bankers, who have no qualms about taking away your rights and redistributing your income.</p>
<p>We are at a dangerous crossroads.  American government in all branches has become infected with socialists who would like nothing better than to see our nation crumble. They would replace our constitution, based on freedom and the rights of every individual, with the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights, which is an appropriate statement of rights for the former Soviet Union or the present North Korea.</p>
<p>The Orwellian “pigs” are taking over the farm. We, the people, are cheering them on.  If we continue down this road, there will come a time when we are disarmed and dependent on benevolent government bureaucrats. Dependency is slavery. That is what socialism is all about. It is no surprise that many influential people tend to support socialism and “spreading the wealth”. They are, after all, the pigs who are “more equal.”</p>
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		<title>Krugman and Recalculating</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Russ Nelson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Paul &#8220;MIT wants its PhD back&#8221; Krugman is at it again. Chen government action causes an economy to go bust, people need to adjust their spending (recalculating). This includes employers and employees. So unemployment goes up. Krugman can&#8217;t understand why this process doesn&#8217;t apply equally to boom times.</p> <p>His claim is comparable to saying <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2009/10/09/krugman-and-recalculating/">Krugman and Recalculating</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul &#8220;MIT wants its PhD back&#8221; Krugman is at it again.<br />
Chen government action causes an economy to go bust, people need to<br />
adjust their spending (recalculating).  This includes employers and employees.  So<br />
unemployment goes up.  Krugman can&#8217;t understand why this process doesn&#8217;t<br />
apply equally to boom times.</p>
<p>His claim is comparable to saying that because the distance between<br />
two floors is equal (the amount of spending adjustment), that it should<br />
take an equal amount of effort (unemployment, as some jobs are destroyed<br />
and others created) to climb the stars as go down.  By this metaphor he&#8217;s<br />
obviously lost all shred of his former Nobel-inducing glory.  All that&#8217;s<br />
needed is to show that gravity exists in economies as well as houses.</p>
<p>Causes of gravity: information (in a boom, everybody knows where the jobs<br />
are; in a bust that information is hard to get), confidence (people take<br />
more risks with their jobs if they know a replacement is easy to get),<br />
egoism (everybody wants to get paid more; nobody wants to get paid less),<br />
time (booms happen slowly and busts quickly), and probably a few more<br />
that I can&#8217;t think of, but really, these are sufficient on their own.  Four<br />
reasons why recalculation results in unemployment on the bust side rather<br />
than the boom side.</p>
<p>It must suck to be Krugman.</p>
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		<title>Kalamitous Krugman</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In a recent New York Times Op-Ed entitled &#8220;Till Debt Does Its Part,&#8221; Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman rebuffs those few reactionary souls who argue that all this debt we are incurring is a bad thing. He assures us,</p> <p>&#8230;don’t fret about this year’s deficit; we actually need to run up federal debt right <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2009/09/01/kalamitous-krugman/">Kalamitous Krugman</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/28/opinion/28krugman.html?em">recent New York Times Op-Ed</a> entitled &#8220;Till Debt Does Its Part,&#8221; Nobel Prize-winning economist <a href="http://mises.org/story/3291">Paul Krugman</a> rebuffs those few reactionary souls who argue that all this debt we are incurring is a bad thing.  He assures us,</p>
<blockquote><p><span>&#8230;don’t fret about this year’s deficit; we actually need to run up federal debt right now and need to keep doing it until the economy is on a solid path to recovery. And the extra debt should be manageable. If we face a potential problem, it’s not because the economy can’t handle the extra debt. Instead, it’s the </span><span>politics, stupid. </span></p></blockquote>
<p>Sometimes you really have to wonder what the standards are for winning a Nobel Prize. We have an economy built on consumer debt which relative to disposable income increased from a low in 1945 to its peak in 2007. As the <a href="http://dailyreckoning.com/land-of-the-lost-decades/">Daily Reckoning</a> further notes, we have $20 trillion in excess debt to work through over the coming years. Yet while on the private side, we need to pay for our sins, liquidate our debts, allow malinvestments to go belly up and start over on more solid fiscal ground, apparently the public sector can just keep on trucking.</p>
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As the sage Mr. Krugman notes,</p>
<blockquote><p><span>Right now deficits are actually helping the economy. In fact, deficits here and in other major economies saved the world from a much deeper slump. The longer-term outlook is worrying, but it’s not catastrophic. The only real reason for concern is political. The United States can deal with its debts if politicians of both parties are, in the end, willing to show at least a bit of maturity. Need I say more?</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Explain this to me exactly.  When are deficits a help to an economy in distress?  If the whole reason we are in economic distress is because of a glut of debt, then why is the answer to pour more gasoline on the fire?  Any company that still functions in any semblance of a free market knows that if it can&#8217;t service its debt, it will be forced to make difficult decisions, potentially opting for bankruptcy. It cannot continually slop at the trough of the debt market.</p>
<p>But Krugman seems to think that the <a href="http://socialistsatthegate.blogspot.com/2009/01/debunking-myth-of-keynesian-government.html">government can have its cake and eat it too</a>.  Where a sober person might argue that in hard times, a government must tighten its belt, like an business or a man, cutting back to the bare minimum, Krugman seems to think that incurring more and more debt, in essence stretching out the inevitable painful liquidation whilst creating another debt/currency crisis down the road is better.  Why have one financial crisis when you can have two or three stretched out over a longer period of time?  You get the sense that Krugman&#8217;s agenda is more political than economic sometimes.</p>
<p>Which brings me to my next point.  Krugman believes the only reason for concern over the debt is &#8220;political.&#8221; Proud of this claim, Krugman states &#8220;Need I say more?&#8221;  Well yes, I think you need do so.  Our currency, and the debts run up by our government denominated in our currency are backed by the full faith and credit of the United States government; which is to say our money and debt are backed by our economy, our people.  If we are in for a prolonged period of negative growth, high unemployment and increased intervention in all aspects of life, especially our economy, how can Krugman make the assumption that the ability to continue adding to our debt solely rests on the &#8220;maturity&#8221; of the politicians?  Can Barney Frank snap his fingers and suddenly make the world buy our paper?</p>
<p>If the government wishes to be &#8220;immature,&#8221; it can do so through intervention and <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/20625.html">coercion</a>.  Alternatively, if the politicians wish to be mature, they can remove themselves from the private sector, slash their spending and taxes, let whole swaths of industry go belly up and allow people to foreclose on their homes.</p>
<p>But Krugman as one might expect opts for the former, immature route.  Mind-numbingly, he proclaims:</p>
<blockquote><p><span>If governments had raised taxes or slashed spending in the face of the slump, if they had refused to rescue distressed financial institutions, we could all too easily have seen a full replay of the Great </span><span>Depression. </span><span>As I said, deficits saved the world.</span></p>
<p><span>In fact, we would be better off if governments were willing to run even larger deficits over the next year or two. The official White House forecast shows a nation stuck in purgatory for a prolonged period, with high unemployment persisting for years. If that’s at all correct — and I fear that it will be — we should be doing more, not less, to support the economy. </span></p></blockquote>
<p>Krugman, going along with all the other Keynesians and socialists under the sun forgets about <a href="http://socialistsatthegate.blogspot.com/2008/12/bush-and-hoover.html">all of the interventionism</a> even before his idol FDR ever got into power during the Depression, in addition to the misguided policies (which he of course <a href="http://web.mit.edu/krugman/www/japtrap.html">advocated</a>) over the last two decades in <a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=1&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fmises.org%2Fjournals%2Fscholar%2Fweingarten.pdf&amp;ei=QEyZSpfMMYuJ8QbXh52qBQ&amp;usg=AFQjCNGr8JA-kJzZaTPLTadYX8l7q9ZCxA&amp;sig2=bqTv80RV9nskT0rzu64cNQ">Japan</a>.  The same illogical government gobbledygook that merely prolonged the Depression has been followed to a tee, all the way up to &#8220;cash for clunkers&#8221;, the modern day equivalent of FDR&#8217;s forced killing of crops and slaughtering of pigs in order to raise the price of agricultural products. Mr. Krugman seems to think that interventionism is what saves economies.  Might I ask then, why not intervene from the start?  If the state is so good at managing crises, why not let it manage all industry in good times as well?  Is the free market only sufficient when the Dow is rising?  And if deficits are the cure-all, then why do nations ever default on their debt?  Why is Zimbabwe the way Zimbabwe is?  Could it be that perhaps the central planners are not so divine after all?<br />
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To be fair, Krugman, digressing notes:</p>
<blockquote><p><span>But what about all that debt we’re incurring? That’s a bad thing, but it’s important to have some perspective. Economists normally assess the sustainability of debt by looking at the ratio of debt to G.D.P. And while $9 trillion is a huge sum, we also have a huge economy, which means that things aren’t as scary as you might think</span><span>Here’s one way to look at it: We’re looking at a rise in the debt/G.D.P. ratio of about 40 percentage points. The real interest on that additional debt (you want to subtract off inflation) will probably be </span><span>around 1 percent of G.D.P., or 5 percent of federal revenue. That doesn’t sound like an overwhelming burden.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Even though all this debt we&#8217;re adding on might not actually be so great, we have a huge economy.  Ah, the panacea of the huge (albeit shrinking) economy &#8211; an economy based on consumption, services and debt, the hallmarks of any economic powerhouse.  He also argues that a rise in debt/GDP of 40% is OK, since this debt will only be 5% of federal revenue, which doesn&#8217;t sound so overwhelming.  So essentially, because it&#8217;s only 5% of a massively-sized federal government which will have ever-decreasing tax revenues necessitating continued debt financing (to pay for more <a href="http://socialistsatthegate.blogspot.com/2009/08/on-principle-of-national-healthcare.html">boondoggles</a>), we should be OK to pay off our debt (with devalued dollars I suppose?).</p>
<p>What might our lenders think about that?  Krugman has an answer for this too.<br />
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<blockquote><p>Now, this assumes that the U.S. government’s credit will remain good so that it’s able to borrow at relatively low interest rates. So far, that’s still true. Despite the prospect of big deficits, the government is able to borrow money long term at an interest rate of less than 3.5 percent, which is low by historical standards. People making bets with real money don’t seem to be worried about U.S. solvency.</p></blockquote>
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<p><span>I would challenge the assumption that the US government&#8217;s credit will remain good.  As Krugman notes, our debt/GDP is going to rise significantly, &#8220;</span></p>
<p></span>The official White House forecast shows a nation stuck in purgatory for a prolonged period, with high unemployment persisting for years,&#8221; and as I mentioned government is intervening in the economy on an unprecedented scale, but relax, our friends in the Far East will continue to bankroll us.  Krugman should take a page from Milton Friedman&#8217;s playbook (along with pages from the playbooks of Hayek, von Mises and Bastiat) and remember that there is no such thing as a free lunch.  All government can do for &#8220;revenue,&#8221; is directly tax, or indirectly tax through issuing debt (taxing future generations and/or devaluing the currency) or printing money.</p>
<p>While Krugman argues that the people &#8220;making bets&#8221; don&#8217;t seem worried about our solvency, as numerous publications have noted, the Chinese are <a href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/32448656">buying less treasuries</a><span> <span>and <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/11/business/economy/11commodity.html">stockpiling commodities</a></span></span><span> <span>(however short-lived the Times may think it will be), indicating that they are diversifying <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8207174.stm">out</a> of dollar-denominated assets.  Meanwhile, the government has had to take the drastic measure of purchasing its own Treasuries, with the Fed committing t</span></span><span><span>o buy $300bn in notes (i.e. printing $300bn) and also <a href="http://www.zerohedge.com/article/feds-ust-pomo-pyramid-scheme-exposed">monetizing the debt more discretely</a>.  In other words, the government has had to keep its own borrowing costs down artificially, making up for the lack of demand of its primary dealers by bidding for its own debt.  But look at the YTD </span></span><span><span>yield curve for the 10-Year Treasury, and tell me that the markets aren&#8217;t reacting at all to our fiscal recklessness:</span></span></p>
<p><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mFL_l0vr3pI/SplTKamwBGI/AAAAAAAAAJw/kYtvCP6dlHk/s1600-h/082909+Larger+10+Year+Treasury.png"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 240px;" src="http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/dbaed_082909+Larger+10+Year+Treasury.png" border="0" alt="" /></a><span><span><br />
</span></span>Moreover, just because rates haven&#8217;t spiked by 500bps in the last year, does that mean that market participants really aren&#8217;t scared about our solvency?  Markets can stay irrational for long periods of time, just look at the housing bubble or any of the other bubbles which after the fact we have said were obvious.  Further, I would argue that creditors like China are being perfectly rational.  They are trying to shift their money towards assets with real tangible value like commodities, while doing as little as possible to spook the government debt markets, because doing so would hurt the value of their own paper.  If they flooded the markets with Treasuries, all of their dollar-denominated assets would plummet in price.  It&#8217;s not in their interest for there to be a run on the US government yet.  But that doesn&#8217;t mean that they won&#8217;t <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&amp;sid=abIG6z0BzwoY">slowly but surely</a> make their exit from US paper assets, leading to higher borrowing costs for our government and less confidence in our dollar.  As I mentioned, there is no free lunch.</p>
<p>Krugman notes that other governments with comparable profligacy like Belgium and Italy never faced financial crises in the early 1990s, but there are obvious notable differences.  We are the biggest economy in the world, and were the most prosperous one.  We have the world&#8217;s reserve currency.  Our people are not used to the kind of fiscal stagnancy faced in Europe.  I just do not see Krugman&#8217;s comparisons hold water.  A more apt comparison in my eyes would be the US versus the Roman or British Empires circa their collapses.</p>
<p>Regardless, I want to return to the fundamental point that going into more debt to solve a problem caused by too much debt makes no sense.  One might argue that sometimes debt can be beneficial and not cause long term harm.  One might cry that parents are right to take out a mortgage on a house to raise their children. If the family can reasonably expect to generate the cash flows to retire this debt over time, then this will certainly be fine. But the US is like one giant family of drug-addled deadbeats looking to buy a mansion in the Hamptons, having already foreclosed on its subprime mortgage, maxed out all of its credit cards and traded in its Rolex&#8217;s to the local pawn shop.</p>
<p>Debt is OK if you can reasonably expect to pay it off.  To incur even greater debt in the face of debt that you will already be unable to service is downright <a href="http://socialistsatthegate.blogspot.com/2009/05/immorality-writ-large-and-how-to-fight.html">immoral</a> and will lead to severe consequences for the people.</p>
<p>These deficits in and of themselves are not productive.  They represent a stealing of wealth from future generations.  As I mentioned, the only way to pay down the debt will be to tax future generations, either directly or indirectly through inflating the money supply and thus devaluing the currency. Further, regarding what the deficits are actually being used to finance, as I have <a href="http://socialistsatthegate.blogspot.com/2009/01/obamas-job-creation-in-abstract.html">argued</a> in accordance with sound Austrian economics, the deficits used to bail out failing ventures stop the market from naturally adjusting, and lead to less productive if not downright destructive &#8220;jobs&#8221; being diverted from the private sector.</p>
<p>So in some respects again, Krugman is right that our politicians need to be mature.  But the people get the government they deserve, and as of yet though there have been some bright signs, the majority of people don&#8217;t seem to want to deal with the pain that mature servants of the citizenry would allow them to withstand today for a brighter tomorrow.</p>
<p>It is worth noting that in Krugman&#8217;s delusion, he actually makes a redeeming comment noting,</p>
<blockquote><p><span>Over the really long term, however, the U.S. government will have big problems unless it makes some major changes. In particular, it has to rein in the growth of Medicare and Medicaid spending.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>He actually has me for a second, until the subsequent stanzas:</p>
<blockquote><p><span>That shouldn’t be hard in the context of overall health care reform. After all, America spends far more on health care than other advanced countries, without better results, so we should be able to make our system more cost-efficient.</p>
<p>But that won’t happen, of course, if even the most modest attempts to improve the system are successfully demagogued — by <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/12/opinion/12krugman.html?_r=1&amp;ref=opinion">conservatives</a>! — as efforts to “pull the plug on grandma.”</p>
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<p>Keep it <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/13/krugman-republicans-have_n_186093.html">classy</a>, Paul.<span><span><br />
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		<dc:creator>Trace Mayer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Gregory Mankiw, professor of court economics at Harvard and economic advisor to President George W. Bush, proposed negative interest rates in a recent New York Times article.  Mike Shedlock, a prominent financial commentator has appropriately weighed in 19 March with Time For Mankiw To Resign and again on 21 March with Economist Mankiw Defends Policy <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2009/04/23/insane-psycho-sociopathic-court-economists/">Insane Psycho-Sociopathic Court Economists</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregory Mankiw, professor of court economics at Harvard and economic advisor to President George W. Bush, proposed negative interest rates in a recent <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/19/business/economy/19view.html" target="_blank">New York Times</a> article.  Mike Shedlock, a prominent financial commentator has appropriately weighed in 19 March with <a href="http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/04/time-for-mankiv-to-resign.html" target="_blank">Time For Mankiw To Resign</a> and again on 21 March with <a href="http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/04/economist-mankiw-defends-policy-of.html" target="_blank">Economist Mankiw Defends Policy of Theft</a>.</p>
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<p>Interestingly Mankiw, a monetarist, appears to have the support of Paul Krugman, a Keynesian, who <a href="http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/19/is-inflation-the-answer/" target="_blank">responded</a>, “Greg Mankiw says yes. Since that was the answer I arrived at for Japan more than a decade ago, I have to say that it makes sense in principle.”</p>
<p><strong>MR. MANKIW’S PROPOSAL</strong></p>
<p>“Imagine that the Fed were to announce that, a year from today, it would pick a digit from zero to 9 out of a hat. All currency with a serial number ending in that digit would no longer be legal tender. Suddenly, the expected return to holding currency would become negative 10 percent. … The idea of negative interest rates may strike some people as absurd, the concoction of some impractical theorist. Perhaps it is. But remember this: Early mathematicians thought that the idea of negative numbers was absurd. Today, these numbers are commonplace. Even children can be taught that some problems (such as 2x + 6 = 0) have no solution unless you are ready to invoke negative numbers.  Maybe some economic problems require the same trick.”</p>
<p>I will attack Mankiw’s insane proposal from several fronts, missed by most commentators, but nevertheless extremely important.  While I do agree with revoking legal tender status for all FRN$, not just 10%, I differ with his proposed procedure and underlying moral reasoning.</p>
<p><strong>LEGAL TENDER</strong></p>
<p>Notice that Mankiw suggests that ‘the Fed were to announce that …. would no longer be legal tender.’  This talk about the Fed determining what is and is not legal tender baffles me.  Perhaps Mr. Mankiw should open up a copy of the Constitution and read it.</p>
<p>Under Article 1 Section 8 Clause 5 Congress is given the power to ‘Coin Money, regulate the Value thereof’.  Notice the Constitution does not say what money is only that it is something that is <strong>coined</strong> rather than <strong>printed</strong>.  The Tenth Amendment states, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”  The Constitution operates on the principle that if a power is not specifically delegated then it is prohibited.</p>
<p>In this case the Federal Government is given no authority to make anything legal tender.  The <a href="http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/fract.htm" target="_blank">Federal Reserve Act</a> was enacted by Congress creating the Federal Reserve.  Because Congress does not have the power to declare anything legal tender and because the Federal Reserve was created by Congress therefore it follows that the Federal Reserve cannot declare anything legal tender.  The individual States do retain the power to declare things legal tender but are restricted under Article 1 Section 10 Clause 1 from making any ‘Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts’.   <strong>The creature cannot exceed the creator.</strong></p>
<p><strong>NEGATIVE REAL RETURNS WILL FAIL</strong></p>
<p>On 18 March 2009 I established the case for why the <a href="http://www.runtogold.com/2009/03/federal-reserve-will-fail-with-quantitative-easing/" target="_blank">Federal Reserve’s quantitative easing will fail</a>.  On 1 February 2008 I marked the <a href="http://www.runtogold.com/2008/02/first-snowfall-of-kondratieff-winter/" target="_blank">first snowfalls of the Kondratieff Winter</a>, or <a href="http://www.creditcontraction.com" target="_blank">Great Credit Contraction</a>, because of investor’s willingness to accept negative real returns.</p>
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<p>Mankiw’s proposal will not work yet because although the <a href="http://www.runtogold.com/2009/01/united-states-treasuries-are-the-biggest-bubble-of-all/" target="_blank">US Treasury Bubble will burst</a> and there are reasons <a href="http://www.runtogold.com/2009/01/why-and-how-the-treasury-bubble-will-burst/" target="_blank">how and why</a> that will happen it has <strong>not</strong> happened yet.  Most FRN$ exist <strong>not</strong> as physical tickets <strong>but</strong> as digital illusions.  Mankiw has gotten a little bit ahead of himself as capital will eventually move from digital illusions into physical FRN$ illusions because physical FRN$ tickets are safer and more liquid.</p>
<p>This has not happened yet although the US government has been placing restrictions to prevent it such as the filing of Special Activity Reports, etc.  Nevertheless, the attempt by Mankiw and Krugman is to force capital <strong>up</strong> the liquidity pyramid while the natural economic law is bringing it <strong>down</strong>.  They may as well attempt to order the sun not to rise.</p>
<p><strong>MORALITY</strong></p>
<p>Since individuals are “endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights” and because individuals form governments to protect property, life, and liberty, it follows that individuals are superior to their creation of government.  <strong>Individuals can grant to their creation at most only those rights they possess.</strong> No individual possesses the right to unjustifiably infringe on another individual’s autonomy, and because individuals create governments, no government can possibly be justified in the possession of such a right.  Therefore, legitimate government must act within the constraints of the <a href="http://runtogold.com/sounds/NAA.mp3" target="_blank">Non-Aggression Axiom</a>.  Otherwise those actors are merely criminal gangs costumed in government regalia.</p>
<p>Government represents one of the most powerful forces on earth.  <strong>Therefore, an individual’s political beliefs reveal with perfect clarity his or her moral character.</strong></p>
<p><strong></strong>In this case, Mr. Mankiw would use the brutal violence of government to arbitrarily steal 10% of anyone’s savings and finds this repulsive behavior to be the philosopher’s stone as ’some economic problems require the same trick’.  Can there be worse psycho-sociopathic tendencies?</p>
<p>I wonder if Mr. Mankiw would recommend torture, invasion and genocide as good economic policies to get out of a looming recession because they would increase aggregate demand, stimulate the economy and increase GDP.  Even <a href="http://www.runtogold.com/2009/02/kazakhstan-currency-goes-poof/" target="_blank">Vladimir Putin</a> revealed his understanding of these basic laws when he stated, “The only problem:  your results were poor and this will always be the case because the work you do is unfair and immoral.  <strong>In the long run immoral policies always lose.</strong>”</p>
<p>Mr. Mankiw and Mr. Krugman are not engaged in the study or teaching of economics but political dogma.  And so we see evidence of the true motive of these two influential court economists which is most likely:  <strong>the sadistic desire to abuse the power of the State to engage in looting and killing</strong>.</p>
<p><strong>CONCLUSION</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.runtogold.com" target="_blank"><img class="alignright" src="http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/70ea5_Constitution.jpg" alt="" width="370" height="244" /></a>The <strong>trick</strong> to get out of the current economic problems is really founded in morality.  Decades ago <a href="http://mises.org/story/2276" target="_blank">Ludwig von Mises</a> wrote in <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0913966703?tag=run07-20&amp;camp=0&amp;creative=0&amp;linkCode=as4&amp;creativeASIN=0913966703&amp;adid=1WVK6N6PS2HTEJ0Z52CF&amp;" target="_blank">The Theory of Money and Credit</a>, “It is impossible to grasp the meaning of the idea of sound money if one does not realize that it was <strong><span>devised as an instrument for the protection of civil liberties against despotic inroads on the part of governments.  Ideologically it belongs in the same class with political constitutions and bills of rights.</span></strong>”</p>
<p>The solution to the current economic problems is to be found by picking up an extremely short document, the United States Constitution, and strictly applying its powers and disabilities in accordance with the Non-Aggression Axiom.  Of course, doing so would drastically limit the ability of those who desire looting and killing.</p>
<p>If you look at every single problem we are facing today almost all are the result of a lack of respect for the rule of law and the Constitution.  The solution can only be applied if society changes its idea about what the role of government ought to be.  If society thinks that the role of government is to take care of individuals from cradle to grave and police the world by spending hundreds of billions of dollars on a foreign policy that cannot be managed then the <a href="http://www.runtogold.com/2009/03/how-to-intentionally-exacerbate-the-greater-depression/" target="_blank">greater depression will only exacerbate</a>.  Thus the true budget deficit and balance sheet deficiencies appear to be moral and not economic.</p>
<p>National currencies are like the common stock of nations.  So long as the United States and its people continue violating these basic laws of morality and engaging in immoral policies the FRN$ will continue to decline.  The price of the monetary metals, <a href="http://www.runtogold.com/goldmoney" target="_blank">gold and silver</a>, will increase.  But if you think the United States is a rogue elephant on the world stage now just wait until she is truly panicked.</p>
<p>Disclosures:  Long physical gold and silver with no position in GLD, SLV, US Treasuries such as TLT, UDN or UUP.</p>
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