This forum requires Javascript to be enabled for posting content

Current User: Guest Login
Please consider registering

Search Forums:



Drooping Vietnam Dong Gets Devalued
Read original blog post

Add a New Topic
Reply to Post
User Post

8:32 am
November 25, 2009

Trace Mayer


posts 25

On 26 November 2009 the State Bank of Vietnam devalued the dong by about 5%.  This is the third instance of currency devaluation in two years.  The FRN$ is likewise being devalued against gold.

A few weeks ago I observed that those buying gold in Vietnam are paying a premium and that:

Gold is money and is reasserting itself as currency in Vietnam.  After 18 months of failed policies the helpless government has retreated from the import restrictions because the market is more powerful than governments.

Bloomberg reported,

The State Bank of Vietnam set a dong reference rate for tomorrow that is 5.2 percent lower, at 17,961 per dollar, compared with 17,034 today, it said in a statement on its Web site. Policy makers narrowed the dong’s daily trading band to 3 percent, from 5 percent, effective tomorrow, and increased the benchmark interest rate for the first time since January, to 8 percent.


As I observed on 9 September 2009 when the gold party was getting started, with the price at $995.75:

200 day relative price of gold is at 1.08x … Based on seasonal trends gold and silver will be strengthening, with the strongest months in September and November

This upleg in gold and silver will have significant strength because of the long period of consolidation just like in 2004 and 2006 which provided the foundation for the uplegs in 2005 and 2007 that took gold from $400 to $700 and $650 to $1,000, respectively.  If the current upleg is similar to the previous two then the 200 day relative prices for gold and silver at the top of this upleg would be about 1.5x and 1.7x, respectively.

This puts $1,300 gold and $25 silver within range without greatly exceeding previous trading norms


On 25 November 2009 Reuters reported:

Gold struck a record high for a second time this week, rising above $1,178 an ounce on Wednesday, as the dollar slipped and a newspaper reported that India was “open to buying” more gold from the International Monetary Fund.

Gold has jumped nearly 13 percent since the beginning of this month as investors poured money into the precious metal after India’s central bank announced it had bought 200 tonnes of bullion from the IMF.

The current price of gold is about $1,175 per ounce with silver at $18.70.  Like I predicted November has been a strong month for both of the metals.  The 200dma for gold is $967.86 and $14.73 for silver.  This puts gold at 1.217x its 200dma and silver at 1.27x its 200dma.


Usually in a strong bull market silver will trail gold and then rapidly play catch up.  The vast majority of silver’s gains happen in a relatively very short period of time.  If gold is like owning a cruise ship then silver is like owning a speed boat.

Because gold and silver have moved so quickly so fast, seasonality and the need for consolidation of these rapid gains therefore it is likely prudent to protect some gains while still maintaining exposure to the upside; for example, using put options.  While over halfway there from when I predicted; I still think $1,300 gold and $25 silver is within range but there will likely be some correction and consolidation between here and there.

Thus buying gold is not nearly as attractive as buying silver or even buying platinum which is up $340 per ounce since I recommended platinum about four months ago.  I am still extremely bullish on platinum and if acquiring a physical store of the precious metals and given an efficient and cost effective option, such as with GoldMoney, between platinum, gold or silver then I would recommend platinum.


With the 5.2 percent devaluation against the FRN$ and with the FRN$ losing nearly 13% against gold in November alone and $358 or 43% over the last 12 months the only conclusion is that the Vietnam dong is taking a beating when priced in gold.  In other words, it has gone from 18.4M dong per ounce in January to a high of 28.85M or about 57%!

With Vietnam’s widening trade deficit, the current account deficit, the demand for dollars and gold instead of droopy Vietnam dong, the global economic slowdown which will dampen exports (surely one of the reasons for the devaluation) and evaporating foreign exchange reserves therefore the monetary policy and condition of Vietnam will continue to erode which will place further pressure on the already droopy Vietnamese dong.


Vietnam is having a terrible time attempting to maintain their monetary policy.  Economic law is being applied and gold is playing its prominent role like it always does.  The government can resist but resistance is futile.

Likewise the FRN$ is evaporating before the just heat of gold.  Gold is nowhere near a bubble which is difficult to blow when when so much of the demand is fully paid for and not subject to margin call or default.

But the real bubble is the FRN$ and demand is showing the first significant hints of declining.  After all, it is becoming the carry-trade currency.  Americans with the monetary metals will be as fortunate as Vietnamese because all the barbarous relics of fiat currencies are evaporating.  The Great Credit Contraction has arrived and grinds on.

DISCLOSURES:  Long physical gold, silver, platinum and no position the problematic SLV or GLD ETFs.

Read original blog post

4:16 am
June 20, 2018



asd20180620 under armour outlet online oakley outlet north face coats birkenstock sandals pandora jewelry lebron 15 shoes new jordans coming out balenciaga beats headphones air max 97 ultra yeezy boost 350 v2 pandora charms the north face jackets jordan 12 nike store skechers outlet online louboutin shoes calvin klein underwear yeezy blue tint nike vapor max barbour curry shoes timberland boots for women yeezy boost north face jackets clearance nike kd nike outlet online underarmour uggs on sale tommy hilfiger outlet red bottoms louboutin ray-ban yeezy boost 350 v2 salvatore ferragamo kate spade outlet jordan 11 red polo ralph lauren outlet fake rolex watches off white jordan pandora rings pandora jewelry kevin durant shoes gym red 11 nike factory store kyrie 4 confetti air max 2018 oakley sunglasses yeezy beluga 2.0 red bottom shoes timberland boots north face coats nike air max 95 red bottom kd shoes asics gel michael kors outlet online supremenewyork kd 10 fitflop sandals nike outlet store online jordan retro 12 pandora pandora rings pandora bracelets clearance longchamp handbags adidas shoes birkin bags huarache shoes ugg boots for women lacoste polo shirts vans store coach factory outlet mbt shoes clearance fitflops sale clearance ray bans birkenstock outlet pandora yeezy yeezy boost 350 v2 birkenstock sandals asics gel lyte curry 4 shoes rayban sunglasses kobe 12 birkenstock outlet pandora jewelry birkenstock shoes nike kyrie off white shoes nike air vapormax adidas yeezy coach handbags outlet rihanna puma louboutin outlet celine balenciaga shoes air max plus pandora charms calvin klein online nike outlet golden goose sneakers air max 97 silver bullet birkenstocks ecco shoes for men curry shoes ugg boots ray-ban sunglasses kyrie 4 soccer cleats air max 97 lacoste outlet wholesale jerseys china louboutin north face jackets kyrie 3 basketball shoes adidas shoes for women balenciaga shoes air max 270 the north face outlet online michael kors outlet clearance win like 96 michael kors canada reebok shoes air force one curry 4 pandora sale nike clearance adidas outlet store longchamp outlet ferragamo shoes polo outlet uggs slippers kyrie 3 air max 2018 cheap nfl jerseys jimmy choo shoes nike outlet store red bottom heels cheap soccer cleats christian louboutin shoes red bottoms timberland outlet stores blue tint yeezy jordan 11 win like 82 skechers shoes adidas outlet pandora bracelets clearance air max plus kd 10 polo ralph lauren outlet nike clearance yeezy zebra v2 pandora charms sale pandora charm pandora charms vans pandora jewelry ray ban sunglasses sale valentino shoes air force 1 cheap nike fenty puma uptempo fake yeezy boost red bottoms for men skechers shoes michael kors handbags outlet

Reply to Post

Reply to Topic: Drooping Vietnam Dong Gets Devalued

Guest Name (Required):

Guest EMail (Required):

Topic Reply:

Save New Post Smileys

Guest URL (required)

Math Required!
What is the sum of:
12 + 12



About the Citizen Economists forum

Most Users Ever Online:


Currently Online:

7 Guests

Forum Stats:

Groups: 1

Forums: 12

Topics: 1092

Posts: 1523


There are 1907 Members

There have been 142 Guests

There is 1 Admin

There are 0 Moderators

Top Posters:

Ajay Shah – 67

Christopher Briem – 59

Eldon Mast – 47

The Gold Report – 44

SimonGrey – 33

The Energy Report – 28

Administrators: B.P.T. (399 Posts)