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	<title>Comments on: Alexander Hamilton: The Unlikely Culprit Behind the Financial Crisis?</title>
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		<title>By: J.D. Seagraves</title>
		<link>http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2008/11/05/alexander-hamilton-the-unlikely-culprit-behind-the-financial-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-3073</link>
		<dc:creator>J.D. Seagraves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I am disgusted by the lack of understanding here.

Same here.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Inflation is necessary to create a half-life to money. Without inflation, there is no incentive to spend now, invest now, give now- only to hoard.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

B.S. We experienced the greatest period of prosperity in human history under the gold coin standard. You are advocating monetary fascism -- central planning to &quot;encourage&quot; spending. This is why we have a negative savings rate, a massive trade deficit, and debts (personal and collective) that can NEVER be paid off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I am disgusted by the lack of understanding here.</p>
<p>Same here.</p>
<blockquote><p>Inflation is necessary to create a half-life to money. Without inflation, there is no incentive to spend now, invest now, give now- only to hoard.</p></blockquote>
<p>B.S. We experienced the greatest period of prosperity in human history under the gold coin standard. You are advocating monetary fascism &#8212; central planning to &#8220;encourage&#8221; spending. This is why we have a negative savings rate, a massive trade deficit, and debts (personal and collective) that can NEVER be paid off.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Dirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am disgusted by the lack of understanding here.

Inflation is necessary to create a half-life to money.  Without inflation, there is no incentive to spend now, invest now, give now- only to hoard.

The problem is that our world is using more dollars- more people, more USD transactions, more services, more production- but the Fed has constrained growth because of the &quot;scarcity paradigm&quot; crowd who thinks we&#039;ll run out of energy, land, water, breathable air, etc.  And if we don&#039;t have enough money, we get deflation and hoarding, not production.

The solution is very simple, and the Fed has FINALLY started to pursue it- quantitative easing.  They should have done it sooner, but the EU central banks were worrying about inflation.

Why, in a world of pandemic excess labor and technology obviating commodities (think wireless for copper, high-rises for land, and solar for oil) they would do that is beyond me, other than the crowd who wants to hoard their money and kill the &quot;eaters&quot; who threaten to take their precious natural resources...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am disgusted by the lack of understanding here.</p>
<p>Inflation is necessary to create a half-life to money.  Without inflation, there is no incentive to spend now, invest now, give now- only to hoard.</p>
<p>The problem is that our world is using more dollars- more people, more USD transactions, more services, more production- but the Fed has constrained growth because of the &#8220;scarcity paradigm&#8221; crowd who thinks we&#8217;ll run out of energy, land, water, breathable air, etc.  And if we don&#8217;t have enough money, we get deflation and hoarding, not production.</p>
<p>The solution is very simple, and the Fed has FINALLY started to pursue it- quantitative easing.  They should have done it sooner, but the EU central banks were worrying about inflation.</p>
<p>Why, in a world of pandemic excess labor and technology obviating commodities (think wireless for copper, high-rises for land, and solar for oil) they would do that is beyond me, other than the crowd who wants to hoard their money and kill the &#8220;eaters&#8221; who threaten to take their precious natural resources&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MannyfromNYC</title>
		<link>http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2008/11/05/alexander-hamilton-the-unlikely-culprit-behind-the-financial-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-2839</link>
		<dc:creator>MannyfromNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Raymond… I agree with J.D. Basically, what you’ve pointed out is that in a span of 95 years, inflation has decreased the value of the dollar to the effect that it’s less than 1/20th of its purchasing power in 1913. Now, we know that a major responsibility of the Fed is to try to control inflation-so I guess by your example, you&#039;re saying that it hasn&#039;t exactly been successful at doing so-but then again, there are other factors involved that are beyond its control.
Personally, I’m not exactly a fan of the Federal Reserve. First of all, it is a government entity and obviously, it is subject to political forces and objectives.  One could perceive this as being beneficial or not-based on one’s perspective. Personally, I would like to take a harder look at the Fed and  try to redefine and or limit its role in shaping the economy. In fact, I’m leaning towards J.D.’s position that we’d be better off without it, altogether. I think the idea of manipulating the money supply in order to generate desired political and economic goals is fraught with potential problems-and I believe it also discourages real, social and market-based reform.
As for what an economics professor would say about your suggestion, I am almost certain to get this response:

The Fed has vast powers but it is also limited in its ability to control inflationary forces. It couldn’t control the raging stagflation during the Carter era, for example.
It also has to take into consideration other economic and political factors.  Price inflation is generated by changes in aggregate supply and demand-in which demand (real or perceived) exceeds supply.  But the Fed-being a government controlled bureaucracy, can be slow in responding to market forces or it has to implement monetary policy in conjunction with some governmental initiative-which may or may not be workable under market conditions. 

Politics and economics often operate on different levels. What makes sense-politically, may run counter to economic principles-and vice versa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Raymond… I agree with J.D. Basically, what you’ve pointed out is that in a span of 95 years, inflation has decreased the value of the dollar to the effect that it’s less than 1/20th of its purchasing power in 1913. Now, we know that a major responsibility of the Fed is to try to control inflation-so I guess by your example, you&#8217;re saying that it hasn&#8217;t exactly been successful at doing so-but then again, there are other factors involved that are beyond its control.<br />
Personally, I’m not exactly a fan of the Federal Reserve. First of all, it is a government entity and obviously, it is subject to political forces and objectives.  One could perceive this as being beneficial or not-based on one’s perspective. Personally, I would like to take a harder look at the Fed and  try to redefine and or limit its role in shaping the economy. In fact, I’m leaning towards J.D.’s position that we’d be better off without it, altogether. I think the idea of manipulating the money supply in order to generate desired political and economic goals is fraught with potential problems-and I believe it also discourages real, social and market-based reform.<br />
As for what an economics professor would say about your suggestion, I am almost certain to get this response:</p>
<p>The Fed has vast powers but it is also limited in its ability to control inflationary forces. It couldn’t control the raging stagflation during the Carter era, for example.<br />
It also has to take into consideration other economic and political factors.  Price inflation is generated by changes in aggregate supply and demand-in which demand (real or perceived) exceeds supply.  But the Fed-being a government controlled bureaucracy, can be slow in responding to market forces or it has to implement monetary policy in conjunction with some governmental initiative-which may or may not be workable under market conditions. </p>
<p>Politics and economics often operate on different levels. What makes sense-politically, may run counter to economic principles-and vice versa.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D. Seagraves</title>
		<link>http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2008/11/05/alexander-hamilton-the-unlikely-culprit-behind-the-financial-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-2768</link>
		<dc:creator>J.D. Seagraves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clarify, it requires $22.12 today to buy what $1 bought in 1913. Something that cost $1 in 2008 would have cost $0.05 in 1913.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify, it requires $22.12 today to buy what $1 bought in 1913. Something that cost $1 in 2008 would have cost $0.05 in 1913.</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manny you believe in posting a civil and intelligent comment.
Here is a figure from the Bureau Of Labor and Statistics
that I think is devoid of emotion:

$1.00 in 1913   =   $22.12 in 2008

Have an econ professor glance at the figures while you read the mission statement
of the Federal Reserve on their website.  See if you hear anything resembling economics as an explanation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manny you believe in posting a civil and intelligent comment.<br />
Here is a figure from the Bureau Of Labor and Statistics<br />
that I think is devoid of emotion:</p>
<p>$1.00 in 1913   =   $22.12 in 2008</p>
<p>Have an econ professor glance at the figures while you read the mission statement<br />
of the Federal Reserve on their website.  See if you hear anything resembling economics as an explanation.</p>
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		<title>By: MannyfromNYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MannyfromNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, J.D.

The actual amount taken in by these &quot;greedy&quot; bankers is but a drop in the bucket, but I&#039;m certainly not defending their actions. 

What about Franklin Raines at Fannie Mae? The man took in $90 million for himself and had the full support of key Democrat lawmakers even as the institution overstated its profits to the tune of $9 billion over a four year period (2001-05)! 

Personally, I&#039;m not comfortable with discussions on economic issues where there is a regular use of normative statements and emotionally-loaded words. 
I remember how my  professor in both macro and microeconomics used to constantly remind my fellow classmates to always discuss their position or views in economic terms and not to resort to mere rants and fingerpointing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, J.D.</p>
<p>The actual amount taken in by these &#8220;greedy&#8221; bankers is but a drop in the bucket, but I&#8217;m certainly not defending their actions. </p>
<p>What about Franklin Raines at Fannie Mae? The man took in $90 million for himself and had the full support of key Democrat lawmakers even as the institution overstated its profits to the tune of $9 billion over a four year period (2001-05)! </p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m not comfortable with discussions on economic issues where there is a regular use of normative statements and emotionally-loaded words.<br />
I remember how my  professor in both macro and microeconomics used to constantly remind my fellow classmates to always discuss their position or views in economic terms and not to resort to mere rants and fingerpointing.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D. Seagraves</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D. Seagraves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you please explain your theory, because it makes no sense to me.

Greedy bankers didn&#039;t take any of my money -- until the government stole it from me under TARP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you please explain your theory, because it makes no sense to me.</p>
<p>Greedy bankers didn&#8217;t take any of my money &#8212; until the government stole it from me under TARP.</p>
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		<title>By: Economic Law (ELaw)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Economic Law (ELaw)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Future generations will look back upon the financial crisis of ‘08 as the most sensational “whodunit” of the young century. Was the Bush administration behind it all? Or was it the Democrats and their beloved Community Reinvestment Act? Were greedy Wall Street bankers and financial speculators to blame? Or was it Alan Greenspan and the Federal Reserve?

The answer is very clear......greedy wall street bankers who cheated the American public while filling up their pockets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Future generations will look back upon the financial crisis of ‘08 as the most sensational “whodunit” of the young century. Was the Bush administration behind it all? Or was it the Democrats and their beloved Community Reinvestment Act? Were greedy Wall Street bankers and financial speculators to blame? Or was it Alan Greenspan and the Federal Reserve?</p>
<p>The answer is very clear&#8230;&#8230;greedy wall street bankers who cheated the American public while filling up their pockets.</p>
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