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	<title>Comments on: Laws Against Outsourcing &#8211; Are They Necessary?</title>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2008/07/19/laws-against-outsourcing-are-they-necessary/comment-page-1/#comment-36734</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outsourcing should be strictly limited and unfortunately the places that primarily practice it cannot be counted on to police themselves.  This means that the government needs to lay down legislation to force them to.

Corporations and their CEO&#039;s are only looking to their own bottom line and wallets with little concern for their employees.  If they don&#039;t hit their 20% increase in profits over last quarter, guess what...more employees in the US will get laid off.  Even if they could increase more by cutting a relatively few higher executive&#039;s insane salaries by a small amount, they will just lay off a few dozen/hundred/thousand lower-end workers.  Their work still has to be performed by someone because unlike the majority of executives who could be outright fired with no impact to the company, the lower end worker&#039;s job had measurable productivity that will need to continue to be accomplished by someone.  This usually means outsourcing. 

That 25k a year the US employee was making just gets replaced by half a dozen foreign workers for less than 10k a year.  Sure they may do a worse job overall even with the increased amount of people to do that one person&#039;s job, but they don&#039;t care about that...the $ has increased Now.  Little thought is also paid to the fact that the majority of their customers are from the US and they just took away the money that would later be sent right back to them as their employees were also their customers.  This means that in future quarters they won&#039;t hit their margins and just have to lay off more people and further perpetuate the cycle.

We&#039;re already at the point where our country is falling behind technologically and even our astronauts are going to have to start hitchhiking just to even get into orbit.  How many more cities in India are we going to let our US corporations build from nothing while our population begins to starve and economy collapses?  

IT jobs are dwindling away to practically nothing, so what kind of message are we sending our younger generations?  How are they going to see any benefit in pursuing careers that require them to be intelligent and use their brains if those are the type of jobs that have the highest risk of being lost?

I think if there were laws that required the majority of a US-based company&#039;s employees to be in the US for them to operate and have their corporate offices and executives based out of the US, then we&#039;d see a massive improvement in our economy in the long run.  Companies like HP that outsource close to 90% of their workforce need to be held accountable.

Either that or convince their accountants that there&#039;s more profit to be made by insourcing their workforce and outsourcing their executives :)  

Oh poor Mark Hurd took a 5% decrease in his multi-million dollar salary while taking a few thousand away from people who don&#039;t even make 30k to &#039;avoid laying people off&#039;.  Then they give the employees a &#039;bonus&#039; which is really just the money they should have made had their pay been left alone.  Afterward, they still make the lower wage, and good ole Mark starts laying people off again.

So glad that Ron Rittenmeyer ran EDS into the ground so he could cash out to HP and have Mark lay all of the US workers off.  There&#039;s no way they could understand having Any US employees considering every single one of their production factories is in India.  

It&#039;s funny considering HP used to be a client of EDS and now they own us.  I still call myself an EDS employee and would be ashamed to say I work for HP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outsourcing should be strictly limited and unfortunately the places that primarily practice it cannot be counted on to police themselves.  This means that the government needs to lay down legislation to force them to.</p>
<p>Corporations and their CEO&#8217;s are only looking to their own bottom line and wallets with little concern for their employees.  If they don&#8217;t hit their 20% increase in profits over last quarter, guess what&#8230;more employees in the US will get laid off.  Even if they could increase more by cutting a relatively few higher executive&#8217;s insane salaries by a small amount, they will just lay off a few dozen/hundred/thousand lower-end workers.  Their work still has to be performed by someone because unlike the majority of executives who could be outright fired with no impact to the company, the lower end worker&#8217;s job had measurable productivity that will need to continue to be accomplished by someone.  This usually means outsourcing. </p>
<p>That 25k a year the US employee was making just gets replaced by half a dozen foreign workers for less than 10k a year.  Sure they may do a worse job overall even with the increased amount of people to do that one person&#8217;s job, but they don&#8217;t care about that&#8230;the $ has increased Now.  Little thought is also paid to the fact that the majority of their customers are from the US and they just took away the money that would later be sent right back to them as their employees were also their customers.  This means that in future quarters they won&#8217;t hit their margins and just have to lay off more people and further perpetuate the cycle.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re already at the point where our country is falling behind technologically and even our astronauts are going to have to start hitchhiking just to even get into orbit.  How many more cities in India are we going to let our US corporations build from nothing while our population begins to starve and economy collapses?  </p>
<p>IT jobs are dwindling away to practically nothing, so what kind of message are we sending our younger generations?  How are they going to see any benefit in pursuing careers that require them to be intelligent and use their brains if those are the type of jobs that have the highest risk of being lost?</p>
<p>I think if there were laws that required the majority of a US-based company&#8217;s employees to be in the US for them to operate and have their corporate offices and executives based out of the US, then we&#8217;d see a massive improvement in our economy in the long run.  Companies like HP that outsource close to 90% of their workforce need to be held accountable.</p>
<p>Either that or convince their accountants that there&#8217;s more profit to be made by insourcing their workforce and outsourcing their executives <img src='http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Oh poor Mark Hurd took a 5% decrease in his multi-million dollar salary while taking a few thousand away from people who don&#8217;t even make 30k to &#8216;avoid laying people off&#8217;.  Then they give the employees a &#8216;bonus&#8217; which is really just the money they should have made had their pay been left alone.  Afterward, they still make the lower wage, and good ole Mark starts laying people off again.</p>
<p>So glad that Ron Rittenmeyer ran EDS into the ground so he could cash out to HP and have Mark lay all of the US workers off.  There&#8217;s no way they could understand having Any US employees considering every single one of their production factories is in India.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny considering HP used to be a client of EDS and now they own us.  I still call myself an EDS employee and would be ashamed to say I work for HP.</p>
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		<title>By: wayne smith</title>
		<link>http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2008/07/19/laws-against-outsourcing-are-they-necessary/comment-page-1/#comment-23835</link>
		<dc:creator>wayne smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outsourceing is the direct cause of gas price going up. Just simple supply and demand, we outsourced jobs to China and India caused their demand for oil to go up the result higher prices of gas. Second comment is simple the houseing crises hit in 2006 between 2001 and 2006 we outsourced 3.5 million jobs that weren&#039;t comming back or replaced the result about 1 million forclosures . Look at a map of forclosures and a map where the jobs have been outsourced they almost match.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outsourceing is the direct cause of gas price going up. Just simple supply and demand, we outsourced jobs to China and India caused their demand for oil to go up the result higher prices of gas. Second comment is simple the houseing crises hit in 2006 between 2001 and 2006 we outsourced 3.5 million jobs that weren&#8217;t comming back or replaced the result about 1 million forclosures . Look at a map of forclosures and a map where the jobs have been outsourced they almost match.</p>
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		<title>By: Pinki</title>
		<link>http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2008/07/19/laws-against-outsourcing-are-they-necessary/comment-page-1/#comment-21172</link>
		<dc:creator>Pinki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think laws are needed to limit and or control the number of jobs being outsourced and unnecessary outsourcing of jobs.  I work for a multibillion dollar company and today a number of my co-workers were let go from their jobs due to outsourcing.  I don&#039;t think there is a need to outsource when we can cut cost here and still keep people on.  I see so much waste in my own dept and company.  Maybe if they would think to cut those costs first then they would need to oursource to reduce cost and produce lower cost products.  And what good are these products when the population you sell these products to can&#039;t afford to buy them becasue they don&#039;t have jobs b/c they were out sourced.  

I think what should be done instead of passing laws against outsourcing the public should get together and banned from purchasing products from those companies that do outsource.  Hit them where it hurts!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think laws are needed to limit and or control the number of jobs being outsourced and unnecessary outsourcing of jobs.  I work for a multibillion dollar company and today a number of my co-workers were let go from their jobs due to outsourcing.  I don&#8217;t think there is a need to outsource when we can cut cost here and still keep people on.  I see so much waste in my own dept and company.  Maybe if they would think to cut those costs first then they would need to oursource to reduce cost and produce lower cost products.  And what good are these products when the population you sell these products to can&#8217;t afford to buy them becasue they don&#8217;t have jobs b/c they were out sourced.  </p>
<p>I think what should be done instead of passing laws against outsourcing the public should get together and banned from purchasing products from those companies that do outsource.  Hit them where it hurts!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outsourcing laws could be a good idea in regulating outsourcing outside the country but it isn&#039;t necessary that that these written laws should be against it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outsourcing laws could be a good idea in regulating outsourcing outside the country but it isn&#8217;t necessary that that these written laws should be against it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ladijules</title>
		<link>http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2008/07/19/laws-against-outsourcing-are-they-necessary/comment-page-1/#comment-343</link>
		<dc:creator>Ladijules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some outsourcing should be out right illegal. Such as any outsourcing that requires a person to share their personal information with someone outside this country. Identity theft is on the rise, yet my american bank requires me to share my VERY PERSONAL information (such as account numbers and social security numbers) with some person in India that can&#039;t even speak english! Worse, those foriegn persons are forbidden by the bank to even confirm that they are in another country! This should be highly illegal. All financially and medically sensitive information should not be allowed to be outsourced to ANYONE outside this country! EVER!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some outsourcing should be out right illegal. Such as any outsourcing that requires a person to share their personal information with someone outside this country. Identity theft is on the rise, yet my american bank requires me to share my VERY PERSONAL information (such as account numbers and social security numbers) with some person in India that can&#8217;t even speak english! Worse, those foriegn persons are forbidden by the bank to even confirm that they are in another country! This should be highly illegal. All financially and medically sensitive information should not be allowed to be outsourced to ANYONE outside this country! EVER!</p>
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		<title>By: SEO Professional</title>
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		<dc:creator>SEO Professional</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 04:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, outsourcing laws are necessary to lessen the overused of outsourcing.  Outsourcing nowadays is really crowded, so it must have a law for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, outsourcing laws are necessary to lessen the overused of outsourcing.  Outsourcing nowadays is really crowded, so it must have a law for this.</p>
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